M-10 Rear Suspensions

[boritzer1234]

I just got a question about whether there is a certain M-10 suspension I could use to upgrade the stock suspension on my 2002 yamaha viper. The sled is awesome I just wish the rear suspension was better. Is there an affordable way to get a better suspension under the sled. It doesnt have to necessarily be a M-10 suspension, but after reading and researching I have basically found that this is the best suspension upgrade on the market. If you could give me any info on any suspension upgrade for my sled that would be great. Also if you know where one is affordable (under $800). Thanks.

 

[ohiosledder]

The M-10 is certainly worth the money. Before I went with a rider forward chassis, I upgraded my AC '96 ZRT and I was absolutely thrilled with the result. However, once I got the rear updated, I wanted more performance for the front to match, which is what led me to the rider forward. I think the basic M-10 I bought was around $1000. I don't know if you'll be able to find one under $800, but if you do don't hestitate to buy it - it's worth it. You might want to try looking through varoius classified sections for one. When I sold my ZRT, the guy that bought was buying it just to get the suspension for another sled he had since I was selling at a reasonable price.

 

[rinkerman]

Where is the best place to buy m-10?

 

[mxz_chris]

Watch Craigslist. I got an M-10 with the ARC add-on for 400.00 last year. Mount kit would be brand specific, 250.00 new. I made mine. It turned a 98 MXZ 670 from a tippy, violent, uncomfortable monster, into a comfortable, unbelievable cornering machine. These sleds had horrible inside ski lift, and the M-10 completely eliminated it. Also, once set up correctly, the rear end rides as well as a rider forward sled, IMHO. I only got rid of it because I had back problems (unrelated to sledding) that made it very uncomfortable to ride in that position all day. I can't recommend it enough, especially if you can't upgrade to a newer sled.

 

[mxz_chris]

Reading your post again, I want to clarify and answer your question better. You can put any M-10 in your sled, you just need to buy an adapter/mount kit from FAST. They are very helpful, will walk you through everything you need.

 

[edmarino]

Team Fast the manufacturer, will sell you the exact kit for your sled at list price of course, Otherwise e-bay or craigslist and then team fast for the kit to install in your sled. Or better yet get their new Air Wave system. Much better, I have one of both and the air wave is smoother by far. Also the new Yamaha is coming with an air bag suspention system in it now. You can also retro fit an older M-10 to newer air bag system when you are ready if you find a used one cheap.

 

[Deleted member 10829]

Check the Classifieds under Parts & Accessories on this site, and there are 2 ads. One is last posted on 2/14 and was started by Twisted2 and there is another last posted on 2/5 on the second page and was started by bedasmobile.

I have had many M-10 suspensions over the years, and I loved each and every one of them. I'm sad to see Polaris dropped it from the factory a few years ago, but they had changed it some and it wasn't quite as good as the original from FAST, but still very good!

 

[ubee]

M-10 good for groomed trails if you got a bad back! not for off trail or lake riding as you get a big ice build-up. have never seen one on a snow-cross race sled,probably cause of the loss of performance and ride height! very noisy howl when you ride too! just my .02

 

[Deleted member 10829]

I'm guessing most people that want an M-10 are trail riders. I have ridden many lakes with mine with no problem and never had any more ice build up than a regular factory suspension. I've never noticed the howl you are talking about either and I have owned 5 sleds with the M-10 and 2 of my 3 current sleds have them. I easily have ridden 25,000 miles on an M-10 and love them completely. I don't think I would use it for racing though!

 

[dave_m]

I have an Edge skid in my Viper...with the Fox PPS clicker shock... bumps ??? What bumps ??

 

[rsvectordude]

Personally I would put a expert X in that Yamaha over an m-10 just for the fact that the M-10 has no weight transfer adjustment and with a viper I think you'd be spinning away with no so great hookup...The expert X you can adjust weight transfer with the hand adjuster..

 

[roc]

05 RAGE with M10

I love it, I will keep this sled forever!!!

Its a GREAT SMOOTH RIDE!!!

 

[formanek]

M-10 good for groomed trails if you got a bad back! not for off trail or lake riding as you get a big ice build-up. have never seen one on a snow-cross race sled,probably cause of the loss of performance and ride height! very noisy howl when you ride too! just my .02

I have a 2008 XP and just got back from 800 miles in the U.P. I wish I had my M-10 in this sled. NO suspension compares. Owning 5 M-10's in different sleds I know. My XP has a nasty howl in the stock suspension and vibration in my feet. None of the manufacturers have mastered it like the M-10 did 15 years ago. My 2011 Ski-Doo may just never have a mile turned on it without an M-10. They are that good PERIOD.

As for sno cross. You have to run stock suspensions with modifications. Can't replace them entirerly.

Oh yeah... the bigger the bumps, rougher the ditches, the better my m-10's worked.

 

[ubee]

As for sno cross. You have to run stock suspensions with modifications. Can't replace them entirerly.

Oh yeah... the bigger the bumps, rougher the ditches, the better my m-10's worked.[/QUOTE]

I think they were stock from the factory from Polaris many years ago and they dropped Fast M-10s when snow-cross started. They might handle the big whoops and ditches like around Eveleth but I have yet to see one you could adjust to take the ultimate ungroomed Stutter Bump encountered every day at bridege crossings,access trail to services,etc. You can always tell a m-10 coming cause the guy will be kneeling or standing on the stutters.they do ride like a Cadillac on groomed trails and are the equivilent to a trucker having a bostrom seat!! Also the higher ride makes it more top heavy and prone to stucks! New air-ride systems are the future of the industry!

 

[ubee]

Wow, That stuck L@@KS like the same sled in Rocs post!! so much for polished tunnels !!! lmao!!

 

[formanek]

As for sno cross. You have to run stock suspensions with modifications. Can't replace them entirerly.

Oh yeah... the bigger the bumps, rougher the ditches, the better my m-10's worked.

I think they were stock from the factory from Polaris many years ago and they dropped Fast M-10s when snow-cross started. They might handle the big whoops and ditches like around Eveleth but I have yet to see one you could adjust to take the ultimate ungroomed Stutter Bump encountered every day at bridege crossings,access trail to services,etc. You can always tell a m-10 coming cause the guy will be kneeling or standing on the stutters.they do ride like a Cadillac on groomed trails and are the equivilent to a trucker having a bostrom seat!! Also the higher ride makes it more top heavy and prone to stucks! New air-ride systems are the future of the industry![/QUOTE]

Have you ever owned one? If not, I don't think you can really speak to any actions of the M-10. I don't know anything about a lot and in turn don't act like I do. Stutterbumps? The M-10 was made for that and I stand by my statement that my M-10 from 5 years ago rides better than my XP.

 

[ubee]

You are correct,I have never owned one.never wanted one,never rode a XP Have rode quite a few M-10s on different brands of sleds in different conditions.had a nice job once testing suspensions and always went to the roughest trails in the midwest to collect data.Our findings were that most riders never try to adjust their suspensions after it leaves the dealer and the most bang for the buck was spending the money for Ohlin shocks for your skis and stock suspension and paying someone to calibrate it for you. The Ohlins go thru the stutter bumps? like a hot knife thru butter.I did say the M-10 rode like a cadillac on groomed trails! again just my .02 worth

 

[Bradzoo]

I work my M-10 hard and have no complaints, it needs to be set to the type of riding you are doing and your weight and it works great, I soften mine up to ride off trail and it doesn't get stuck any more than any other sled I ride with, sometimes not as much, mine is extended to a 136" and I'm running mountain coupler blocks which allow for more weight transfer than a 121" M-10, I'm also running a 1 3/4" track. M-10's are not just for trail riding alot of high end mountain sled builders use M-10's as there rear suspension of choice, Crazy Mountain Extreme for example, they need to set up correctly to work correctly my .02

 

[roc]

ubee's yami without the m10

looks like your in good-7 guys to pull it out, wow

 

[8bu]

Got a M-10 last year. Wish I would have got one twenty years ago. Maybe I wouldn't have needed those two discs in my back trimmed a couple years ago.