Misuse of the term "Polar Vortex"

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blabath

Member
Good afternoon John,
Does it drive you crazy too when you see "TV Weatherpersons" say things like... " It looks like the Polar Vortex will extend down into Southern Iowa this weekend"...

Isn't it true that the Polar Vortex remains in close approximation to the North Pole and never really "extends" anywhere?

Maybe I'm just being hypercritical here.

Thanks,
Bill
 
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jd

Administrator
Staff member
It does not really bother me too much, but you are right, the true heat of the polar vortex is not over areas like IA. It actually tends to hang out around Hudson Bay and has always been referred to as the "Hudson Bay Polar Vortex".

It is possible for the far southern extension of the PV to reach into the northern US and even as far south as areas like IA, but the center of the PV never gets that far south and generally stays up in Canada.

-John
 
garyl62

garyl62

Active member
Administrator said:
It does not really bother me too much, but you are right, the true heat of the polar vortex is not over areas like IA. It actually tends to hang out around Hudson Bay and has always been referred to as the "Hudson Bay Polar Vortex".

It is possible for the far southern extension of the PV to reach into the northern US and even as far south as areas like IA, but the center of the PV never gets that far south and generally stays up in Canada.

-John
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But John, I heard that the polar vortex is moving south now due to global warming. No lie, during the first real cold wave I heard someone say that due to global warming the PV was getting pressure and was shifting south which is why we were experiencing cold weather. Eventually the warmer air would settle in a long term position over the N. pole resulting in a massive ice melt which then would result in world wide flooding and global warming to the point that the PV would become extinct.

I just shook my head and changed the channel.
 
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jd

Administrator
Staff member
Yea Gary,

Everything, hot, cold, wet, dry is Global Warmings fault. They tried this same thing with El Nino back in the early 80's, only problem was, on average El Nino happens every 3-4 years, so when the next few came a long and blew all the dire predictions out of the water, the money dried up and so did the hype.

Climate scientists are not stupid, they know this horse has much longer staying power.

-John
 
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Skylar

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Administrator said:
Yea Gary,

Everything, hot, cold, wet, dry is Global Warmings fault. They tried this same thing with El Nino back in the early 80's, only problem was, on average El Nino happens every 3-4 years, so when the next few came a long and blew all the dire predictions out of the water, the money dried up and so did the hype.

Climate scientists are not stupid, they know this horse has much longer staying power.

-John
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Aren't you suppose to be out riding? Or did you arrive today? :)
 
jd

jd

Administrator
Staff member
Just taking a break from pulling some wicked climbs in Two Oceans.

JK, just arrived. Tomorrow we ride!

-John
 
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olsmann

New member
Its really just the news media looking for even more scary terms to use regarding the weather so you will turn to their station vs another. "Tune in tonight with our exclusive coverage on how to protect you and your family from the emerging POLAR VORTEX!!!!!!" Just a bunch of media crap.
 
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600_RMK_144

Active member
This one's for you, John...

16 Miles NNE Kelly WY

7 Day Forecast
Riverton, WY
NWS Weather Forecast Office

Tonight Snow. Low around 22. Breezy, with a west southwest wind 18 to 23 mph, with gusts as high as 33 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible.

Monday Snow. High near 30. Breezy, with a southwest wind 18 to 22 mph, with gusts as high as 31 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Monday Night Snow likely, mainly before 11pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 21. Breezy, with a west southwest wind 14 to 21 mph, with gusts as high as 31 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Tuesday A 50 percent chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 32. West southwest wind 10 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 23 mph. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Tuesday Night A 50 percent chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 21. West southwest wind around 14 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible.

Wednesday A 40 percent chance of snow. Partly sunny, with a high near 32. West southwest wind 13 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 23 mph.

Wednesday Night A 50 percent chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 22. Southwest wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high as 23 mph.

Thursday Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 34. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Thursday Night Snow likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 20. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Friday A 40 percent chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 30.

Friday Night A chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 14.

Saturday Sunny, with a high near 31.

Saturday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 17.

Sunday Mostly sunny, with a high near 34.
 
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polarisrider1

New member
600_RMK_144 said:
This one's for you, John...

16 Miles NNE Kelly WY

7 Day Forecast
Riverton, WY
NWS Weather Forecast Office

Tonight Snow. Low around 22. Breezy, with a west southwest wind 18 to 23 mph, with gusts as high as 33 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible.

Monday Snow. High near 30. Breezy, with a southwest wind 18 to 22 mph, with gusts as high as 31 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Monday Night Snow likely, mainly before 11pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 21. Breezy, with a west southwest wind 14 to 21 mph, with gusts as high as 31 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Tuesday A 50 percent chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 32. West southwest wind 10 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 23 mph. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Tuesday Night A 50 percent chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 21. West southwest wind around 14 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible.

Wednesday A 40 percent chance of snow. Partly sunny, with a high near 32. West southwest wind 13 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 23 mph.

Wednesday Night A 50 percent chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 22. Southwest wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high as 23 mph.

Thursday Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 34. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Thursday Night Snow likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 20. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Friday A 40 percent chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 30.

Friday Night A chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 14.

Saturday Sunny, with a high near 31.

Saturday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 17.

Sunday Mostly sunny, with a high near 34.
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Like the Sunday forecast. bit warm but will work. Remember John, no pics then it never happened. Rumor is out Olaf is on a Pro... Any truth to that?
 
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snoluver1

Active member
It's true. Olaf went to town today and traded the M for a Pro. Said he was tired of seeing me ride circles around him on my trail sled.

Not sure what he's going to get after tomorrow???? Maybe a snow cat?:D
 
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