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ezra

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Tue June 25 6;30pm Gail woods farm. BE THERE!
there is a meting regarding snowmobiling in 3 rivers parks.
u all know how hard the green DB have been trying to shut us out of 3 rivers now they are trying a diff approach scheduled meting in the summer hoping no snowmobile enthusiasts are paying attention.
show up be seen .
at minimum fill out this survey in fact take a page from the opposition fill it out from every computer u have.
http://take-survey.com/cgi-bin/ThreeRiversParks/Snowmobiles.pl << 3 rivers wont let link work.


OK 3 rivers wont allow the link to work to the survey {shocking} unless u use www.threeriversparks.org/activities/snowmobiling.aspx link then go to public feed back opportunity center page then click on (on line survey.)
 
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lenny

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ezra said:
Tue June 25 6;30pm Gail woods farm. BE THERE!
there is a meting regarding snowmobiling in 3 rivers parks.
u all know how hard the green DB have been trying to shut us out of 3 rivers now they are trying a diff approach scheduled meting in the summer hoping no snowmobile enthusiasts are paying attention.
show up be seen .
at minimum fill out this survey in fact take a page from the opposition fill it out from every computer u have.
http://take-survey.com/cgi-bin/ThreeRiversParks/Snowmobiles.pl << 3 rivers wont let link work.


OK 3 rivers wont allow the link to work to the survey {shocking} unless u use www.threeriversparks.org/activities/snowmobiling.aspx link then go to public feed back opportunity center page then click on (on line survey.)
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good work bud!
 
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skutr

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I have never been there but I took the survey. Here's my answer to all the fill in the blank questions

Snowmobiles are very environmentally friendly. They do not damage the environment in any way other than to leave tracks in hard packed snow. In this way they cause no more damage than snow shoes or cross country skiing(which only leave tracks in hard packed snow).
 
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ezra

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thanks to any filling out survey .
3 rivers parks have been trying hard to get snowmobiles out of the 10 parks they run (like a police state ) trails that have been in pace from as far back as the 60s .
with out those linking trails riding in most of the north/west/south metro will be tough.
3 rivers upper management have all stated openly they want only " passive recreation " with in 3 rivers parks. I have sat in a meting and one board member wants to eliminate boat launches for motorized boats with in the parks. This is what happens when u give a park board way to munch power including there own police force.
http://www.threeriversparks.org/parks.aspx link is a map to the amount of real estate and trails they control.
 
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scott_l

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Good post Ezra......I just filled out the survey and plan to make the July 1st meeting in Maple Grove MN. Who else will I see there?

I also passed this info onto all our club members (northern part of the cites)......in you belong to a club please take the time to pass this info on to all your club members as well. As I am sure many of them do not know about these meetings/topic (I did not).

We all have to stick together and work together.
 
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ezra

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not a bad turn out for 630 on a June Tuesday.
only outspoken opposition was a horse person who came .you know the usual loud bad for the environment dirty tearing up the earth.
from what I understand at some point this summer there will be a 3 rivers meting for horse people to voice there concerns. I will deff be attending that one.
did meet a cool guy who is on the board of 3 rivers John Gibbs. if u go to one of the open mic forums seek him out he is on our side .
if planing on going I would suggest jotting down your thoughts 5 min is what they will give u .
 
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ezra

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at that point only 100 were filled out .
it is a series of 3 meetings to get feedback to delver to the board.
3 board members were at the first .
hope to see big turnouts at the rest .
 
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scott_l

Member
Tuesday, June 25, 6:30 PM
Gale Woods Pavilion
7210 County Road 110 West, Minnetrista

Monday, July 1, 6:30 PM
Elm Creek Chalet
12400 James Deane Parkway, Maple Grove

Thursday, July 11, 6:30 PM
In partnership with Scott County
Ridges at Sand Creek
21775 Ridges Drive, Jordan

The public is also invited to complete an online survey by July 15.
 
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qber

New member
good work ezra -the only time a snowmobile does any damage is when it burns up on the trail and that only melts the snow
 
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scott_l

Member
A quick update.....I did attend the meeting in Maple Grove on the 1st of July

I am going to guess that there was about 25 snowmobilers there (different club members, MNUSA people, yada yada) also 3 gals that where not there in support of the trails but at the same time not bashing or bad mouthing the sport/trails. They are trying to get some trail access for winter horseback riding.....serious question (that I don't know the answer to) what would 10 horses do to a groomed trail. Would the horses tear it up (make the assumption just walking, not running) or would there be next to no evidence that they were ever there?

From what was said "out loud" it does not sound like 3 rivers is trying to push out snowmobiling but at this point in time gather more information and update their "guidelines". I do not have my notes with me from the meeting but going off of memory the original "guidelines where established around 1980 then "reworked" around 1990 and they are looking at "revising" them again.

One of the things that was kind of strange to me is all these parks (again going off of memory 10 or 11 of them across the state) are destinations for different activities (boating, picnics, hiking and what not) but in their "guidelines" say snowmobiling cannot be a "destination activity" for the parks. A trail can only enter and exit a park if it is needed to continue a trail. I thought this was strange, look at the state park in MN just East of Hinckley, great park that allows snowmobiling (great place for families).

It sounds like 3 rivers is going to work with the different local clubs that "touch" any of the parks boarders.

If you have not done so please fill out a survey soon......even if you are not from the area or ride in the parks. A comment was made by the 3 rivers people that it shows that "snowmobilers" stick together.....and we must.
 
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ezra

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the horse people are pushing hard to get the sleds out of the maple plane park they were successful about 5 yrs ago.
then a new club was formed the maple plane snowmades to address the fast loss of trails in the area including the park in question. baker park
they did not get all of the trails back but at lest enough to be able to get across town with out a 60mi detour.
these horse people can use the park 8mo out of the yr but that is not enough they want it all and have no intention of letting up until they get there way.
on a side note they ride horses on mi and mi of country dirt roads and park roads all around baker all yr.
 
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POLARISDAN

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ez..had no idea,,ill fill it out..i remember when three rivers outlawed dogs in the woods..in the woods now we are talking because the jagoff horse owners complained they scared the horses..that was the last time I ever used a three rivers park..i complained all the way up to the top and was told the parks are there for the horse owners first and every body else last..i am so glad I am far enuf out I don't cross any 3 rivers parks
 
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ezra

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yeah the dog thing slays me cant have a dog off leash any place in there few hundred acre parks except the fenced in dog play area .but horse crap piled up on the trail that is ok no not just ok encouraged.
 
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POLARISDAN

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crazy, especially in mn its surprising we are dealing with a beaurocracy that want to outlaw snowmobiling, a driving force in the state..dogs in a park..what a joke..filled out the form
 
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