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thebluff

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I have used this site for I think 5 years now. It seems normal that in late fall/early winter that the bickering ramps up because everyone has the itch to ride.

It has been a really good winter of snow for a huge area, but it seems the mood here is pretty tense. Seems a good number of threads turn into arguments about booze, politics, etiquite, etc. Also seems most of them start off well intentioned.

This new forum is nice because when you get sick of following a thread or it makes you made, you can unsubscribe. Easy nuff to skip out on something that makes you mad.

So....how come the tension?
 
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dab102999

New member
I hope I am not shooting myself in the foot because I really like the way the new site is set up but I think the way it is set up brings some bad apples with it. If you notice the more negitive post are from newer members also. Not all but a lot of them. I really like the way the site is set up and think it will come to a point where the mod squade will be more quicker to delete threads or ban users. (After all how long has it been since we all heard from superturbodiesel?????) Which they have every right to. I think after a year or so the site will become more refined.

Also on a second note I really do believe that the economy, or lack of it is really starting to catch up with more people. Not that it is right to be that way but snowmobilers will always ride, and sometimes that means taking or borowing money from places that they shouldn't. That makes people more edgy. Plus a lot of people type faster then they think, and that always make you end up with your foot in your mouth.
 
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Hoosier

Well-known member
Seems like every forum goes this way eventually. Not sure how to stop it. It doesn't take too many that are negative or edgy to make the whole thing seem gloomy.

I also agree with the economy comment. The country's in a strange place right now, and it's hard to see a light at the end of the tunnel. That kind of casts a shadow on everything right now. Even if you haven't been affected and have the money to snowmobile, you got to wonder how it will be before you are affected.
 
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yamahauler

Active member
I think with the etiquette, sledder behavior are worse this year because a lot of places especially the twin cities has had snow to ride since Christmas. A lot of folks that won't trailer are riding and well, you see all kinds of things that are very rude, unimaginable, and down right dangerous. This is a place where people vent and hopefully some of those that they are talking about take notice.

Politic talk...I have never seen that end nicely unless the people discussing agree 100%.
 
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slow_one

New member
Economy has a lot of people stressed about where their future is headed. Stress tends to make people negative.

I have had to cut back on sledding this year but the truth is the scaled back trips with my wife have been the best ever.
 
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zimmbob

Member
Not sure that it's just the newbies blowing up some of these threads. I go back and read some, and there are heavy users really tossing out strong opinions and adding to the fire. Not that there is anything wrong with putting down their opinions, but I agree, that seeing the same 3 or 4 things over and over sure gets old.

Our group will be up there 3/4 - 3/7. Staying at the world famus Krupps for the first time! I'm sure we'll see the drinkers, the bad drivers, the dumb antics, but you know what, I don't let it spoil my fun. Relax, have a great time.
 
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dgr_calumet

New member
Excuses...

Well I am sure that I will get some comments for what I am about to say but what the hay...

I think all the whining and belly aching and bad attitides I continually see are just excuses...excuses to throw nasty attitudes and negative feelings around. The economy...an excuse. I understand that the economy is bad...I have lost 3 jobs in the past 6 years due to this crappy economy but I continue to push FORWARD, not look back. Does it suck, YES! Is there anything that I can do about it...NO. Deal with it! I just lost my job Wednesday...was I upset, off course. Am I going to whine and complain that it isn't fair...NO! Things happen and I am a firm believer that they happen for a reason. I certainly didn't want my company to close my office...but it happened and now I need to move forward. On top of all of that, I have four kids, three dogs and an endless line of bills. Still not gonna complain...my kids are happy and healthy (we may not have as much as everyone else but we certainly have each other), my dogs are happy and healthy...I am not sure what the future holds but I know that I am not going down without a fight!!! In fact, I already have two interviews for work (and that is in an area that is struggling to provide jobs...the Keweenaw) AND I am opening my own consulting business based on past clients that would like to use my services. I feel fortunate to work with such great owners that they prefer to use my service again...but then, as my wife told me, there IS a reason that these people want to work with me again...I treated them right when I did other projects for them and they were very happy with the services I provided. Good things happen to good people. POSITIVE energy really does allow you to enjoy life regardless of the situation. Honestly...the interviews may not pan out and I will still be jobless but I know that my family in behind me 100 percent and we will do what we have always done...stick together and get through the tough times. If you can do that, I guarantee that the good times will be even better!!

I do not direct my response to ANYONE on this site and I do not wish to offend anyone but I do agree that there seems to be alot of negativity emanating from many of the threads. Doom and gloom so to speak. Well, to h@ll with that. Think positive! Enjoy life! Realize that even if you are having hard times...if you stay positive and work hard, you can turn things around! Look at the important things in life...family, friends, health and just get out and LIVE your life! I certainly undestand that it is difficult to stay positive when you are out of work and the bills begin to pile up, but if you do not work hard to resolve the situation then everything that you say or do is just an EXCUSE!

To those of you that will bash this post...I can only say you need to look inside and I am sure you will find the real cause for all of the anger and negativity. Because, in all honesty, EVERYTHING else is just an excuse!!

Well, I have probably said too much..but hey, I can't help it! Life is too short to stay negative all the time! Live life and THINK SNOW, eh!
 
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dgr_calumet

New member
By the way, I too have been a member of this site since 2005...even though my post total is only at 5 for the new site, I had over 1000 posts on the old site...just lost them in the shuffle I guess! :)

Anyway...that is why I am throwing my opinion out there. I guess I just want to point out that I ain't no "newbie" to those of you that I know will look at that aspect...I got ya before you could say it!! LMAO! :)

Think snow, eh!
 
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polarfreek

New member
slow_one said:
Economy has a lot of people stressed about where their future is headed. Stress tends to make people negative.

I have had to cut back on sledding this year but the truth is the scaled back tripsw with my wife have been the best ever.
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I agree. We are the pretty much the same by brother from another mother. I scaled back too and spend a little more time with my wife but especially my girls; since they are still too young to ride snowmobiles away from home. We took a trip to Disney Land for the first time with them and just to see their smiles was enough for me to re-evaluate what I do with my time.

I love sleddin but sometimes I feel a bit guilty for not spending the time more with my family.
 
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footinforever

New member
in any economy

I think that once people get on their feet a little bit, check out www.daveramsey.com and live debt free as much as possible. Its amazing how much money I've pissed away for stuff thats 4 years old. I am over it and living debt forever.. I hope this changes someone else life.. I saw the light on a different forum, so I hope it does for you.
 
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russholio

Well-known member
Hey Dennis, long time no see....welcome back!

I think your post has a lot of merit. And I think the lack of snow and riding time that many of us are experiencing may be contributing factors, too -- kinda like not having any caffeine in the morning! :)

I do see a bit of edginess and lots of folks who are passionate in their beliefs and opinions. But despite some of the differences of opinions, I think we're not really all as different as it may appear. Case in point: there have been a number of posts by folks who have had to put their dog down, or had their dog killed by a reckless "sledder", or rescued a lost dog (Boonie), or suffered some type of injury that hinders their riding. The responses to those posts have been numerous and all supportive -- even by folks who disagree, sometimes vehemently, on other matters. I think basically, most folks on this board are good people with good hearts. Sometimes, though, for whatever reason, our negative emotions get the best of us.

No excuses, just an observation.
 
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timo

Well-known member
why even ask/bring this topic to the surface, i'm sure you know the different reasons, everyone does. why even bring it up? what good could possibly come from it beside more bicker/arguing/disagreements/biased opinions. its topics like this that just make me say sheees... because all it does it open up a whole 'nother can of worms that after three pages of opinions your still back at square 1.
 
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timo

Well-known member
after re-reading dgr. calumets post he make alot of good points. no matter how much we disagree, argue or have or own opinions about what is badder, smoother, faster, or better.... I always try to remind myself that we all have a common love in this world. whether your on trail or off we all love snowmobiling.
 
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thunderstruck88

New member
also I think this is one of the last forums we have to have freedom of speech and if we have to vent we can do it and let other people perhaps help us to This site helps people alot more then just snowmobiling to Helps in life and I love to see all sides and views of all the john dee memebers even though I feel like a stranger at times THINK SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!! and LOVE ONE ANOTHER!!!!!!
 
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formanek

New member
dgr_calumet said:
Well I am sure that I will get some comments for what I am about to say but what the hay...

I think all the whining and belly aching and bad attitides I continually see are just excuses...excuses to throw nasty attitudes and negative feelings around. The economy...an excuse. I understand that the economy is bad...I have lost 3 jobs in the past 6 years due to this crappy economy but I continue to push FORWARD, not look back. Does it suck, YES! Is there anything that I can do about it...NO. Deal with it! I just lost my job Wednesday...was I upset, off course. Am I going to whine and complain that it isn't fair...NO! Things happen and I am a firm believer that they happen for a reason. I certainly didn't want my company to close my office...but it happened and now I need to move forward. On top of all of that, I have four kids, three dogs and an endless line of bills. Still not gonna complain...my kids are happy and healthy (we may not have as much as everyone else but we certainly have each other), my dogs are happy and healthy...I am not sure what the future holds but I know that I am not going down without a fight!!! In fact, I already have two interviews for work (and that is in an area that is struggling to provide jobs...the Keweenaw) AND I am opening my own consulting business based on past clients that would like to use my services. I feel fortunate to work with such great owners that they prefer to use my service again...but then, as my wife told me, there IS a reason that these people want to work with me again...I treated them right when I did other projects for them and they were very happy with the services I provided. Good things happen to good people. POSITIVE energy really does allow you to enjoy life regardless of the situation. Honestly...the interviews may not pan out and I will still be jobless but I know that my family in behind me 100 percent and we will do what we have always done...stick together and get through the tough times. If you can do that, I guarantee that the good times will be even better!!

I do not direct my response to ANYONE on this site and I do not wish to offend anyone but I do agree that there seems to be alot of negativity emanating from many of the threads. Doom and gloom so to speak. Well, to h@ll with that. Think positive! Enjoy life! Realize that even if you are having hard times...if you stay positive and work hard, you can turn things around! Look at the important things in life...family, friends, health and just get out and LIVE your life! I certainly undestand that it is difficult to stay positive when you are out of work and the bills begin to pile up, but if you do not work hard to resolve the situation then everything that you say or do is just an EXCUSE!

To those of you that will bash this post...I can only say you need to look inside and I am sure you will find the real cause for all of the anger and negativity. Because, in all honesty, EVERYTHING else is just an excuse!!

Well, I have probably said too much..but hey, I can't help it! Life is too short to stay negative all the time! Live life and THINK SNOW, eh!
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Ditto... the problem with people right now is they are all looking for someone else to help them. Not helping themselves. I am dealing with it right now with a couple of employees at my bar/restaurant. Give them an inch of trust and they stab you in the back. Unreal how people think. One thing my mom taught me young... U CAN'T CHANGE PEOPLE. ONLY YOURSELF!"
 
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