Moose in Marinesco, MI ?
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"By the way wolves were also re-introduced but the hunters have been controlling that population."
....Illegally controlling the population you mean.
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 at 3:36 p.m.
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CRYSTAL FALLS (AP) -- The Michigan Department of Natural Resources says a Wisconsin man illegally killed a wolf in Iron County earlier this month.
DNR conservation officers found the animal dumped at the edge of a field south of Iron River on Nov. 17.
Evidence at the scene led the officers to a nearby hunting camp where a possible suspect was identified.
The Green Bay, Wis., man already had returned home, but agreed to return to Iron County to be served with arrest warrants and appear in court.
The suspect will be arraigned in 95B District Court on Nov. 30.
The maximum penalty for poaching a wolf is 90 days in jail or a fine of up to $1,000.
Wolves are a federally protected species in Michigan and cannot legally be killed except in the defense of human life.
....Illegally controlling the population you mean.
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 at 3:36 p.m.
Read more: Local, Crime, Wolves, Wolf, DNR, Department of Natural Resources
CRYSTAL FALLS (AP) -- The Michigan Department of Natural Resources says a Wisconsin man illegally killed a wolf in Iron County earlier this month.
DNR conservation officers found the animal dumped at the edge of a field south of Iron River on Nov. 17.
Evidence at the scene led the officers to a nearby hunting camp where a possible suspect was identified.
The Green Bay, Wis., man already had returned home, but agreed to return to Iron County to be served with arrest warrants and appear in court.
The suspect will be arraigned in 95B District Court on Nov. 30.
The maximum penalty for poaching a wolf is 90 days in jail or a fine of up to $1,000.
Wolves are a federally protected species in Michigan and cannot legally be killed except in the defense of human life.
When they finish off the deer herd they will have to change their diet! Good article in Lakeland Times,Nov 27th ,Back thru the Times.By Herman Witt,trapper ,Hunter,Trader.It was in the winter of 1894-95 in northern Michigan,Ontonogan county,28 miles due north of lake Gogebic.About 18 miles east of this lake there was a logging camp operated by a man named Thompson,there were no settlers in this area at the time.2 armed lumberjacks knocked on my shacks door and said the boss wanted to see me. They had found the half breed mail carrier,who carried the mail from Bergland to camp killed and eaten by a pack of timber wolves only a few miles from their camp! Back in those days it was legal to poison wolves.I made up alot of lard pills with poison in them.Mr.thompson took me out to the remains.all I found was crimson blood-stained snow packed with large timber wolf tracks,two 12 inch rubbers with socks protruding and the feet of a man in them.small bits of bones,entrails and shreds of clothes,the largest about the size of a mans hand which was the remains of a red and blue colored mackinaw.There was no mistake I had witnessed the remains of my first and only killing of a man by wolves. I estimated this pack to be about 16 in number! That winter my partner and I caught 50 large timber wolves on which we collected $50 for each scalp at the county seat and $5 extra from Thompson as a bonus because his men started quitting at a high rate.Besides we sold alot of beaver and other fur that spring!I got married shortly after that and didn't trap for awhile as I went to live in Stevens Point.
Wolves can be a danger to humans. Fatalities have happened in the past. There is no doubt about it. They are a major threat to livestock and pets.
But....people like to spread rumors and half-truths about the degree of the threat that they are to humans. Many folks have heard that the only good wolf is a dead wolf.
From a study out of the University of Idaho.
"Habituation is thought to be the cause of the first probable human fatality attributed to wolves in North America since 1900. This fatality occurred in November, 2005 in northern Saskatchewan. Subsequent investigation by Paul Paquet, a University of Calgary wolf biologist and provincial authorities has determined that some wolves in the area had been attracted to a garbage dump; had possibly been fed and regularly photographed at a nearby mining camp, causing the animals to become habituated.
Like your dog, wolves are curious animals, readily investigating something new in their environment. And the vast majority of wolf-human encounters are simple curiosity on the part of the wolf. Wolves are, however, very territorial and intolerant of the presence of another canine. Hikers with dogs have occasionally been followed, barked at, and growled at by resident wolves protecting their territory from a trespassing canine. Wolves have also been documented exhibiting these same behaviors when pups are present.
A person in wolf country has a greater chance of being hit by lightning, dying of a bee sting or being killed in a vehicle collision with a deer than being injured by a wolf."
But....people like to spread rumors and half-truths about the degree of the threat that they are to humans. Many folks have heard that the only good wolf is a dead wolf.
From a study out of the University of Idaho.
"Habituation is thought to be the cause of the first probable human fatality attributed to wolves in North America since 1900. This fatality occurred in November, 2005 in northern Saskatchewan. Subsequent investigation by Paul Paquet, a University of Calgary wolf biologist and provincial authorities has determined that some wolves in the area had been attracted to a garbage dump; had possibly been fed and regularly photographed at a nearby mining camp, causing the animals to become habituated.
Like your dog, wolves are curious animals, readily investigating something new in their environment. And the vast majority of wolf-human encounters are simple curiosity on the part of the wolf. Wolves are, however, very territorial and intolerant of the presence of another canine. Hikers with dogs have occasionally been followed, barked at, and growled at by resident wolves protecting their territory from a trespassing canine. Wolves have also been documented exhibiting these same behaviors when pups are present.
A person in wolf country has a greater chance of being hit by lightning, dying of a bee sting or being killed in a vehicle collision with a deer than being injured by a wolf."
The interesting thing about wolves is their big supporters are the people who don't live in wolf territory. Here in MN you have these huge wolf supporters from the metro area that have never seen a wolf in their lives that think they are cute and cuddly and we need to protect them from bad people. Up by our cabin, which is located in wolf central, they all hate them as many have stories of pets being attacked, being followed by them, etc.... And both sides have their points and I'm not smart enough to say who is right or wrong. I just know there are polar opposite opinions from those who live among wolves to those who admire them from afar.
An example of that is one day I followed a wolf down a snowmobile trail one day for quite a while as he/she didn't want to get out in the deep snow. When I mentioned that to a couple of locals, they both told me I should have ran the dang thing over. Others I told it to said how neat that would have been to see them up close. And it was neat but we've also seen 1 run through the yard of our cabin and I've gotten pictures of them on my trail cam near the cabin. makes me worry about letting the kids run around in the woods a bit.
An example of that is one day I followed a wolf down a snowmobile trail one day for quite a while as he/she didn't want to get out in the deep snow. When I mentioned that to a couple of locals, they both told me I should have ran the dang thing over. Others I told it to said how neat that would have been to see them up close. And it was neat but we've also seen 1 run through the yard of our cabin and I've gotten pictures of them on my trail cam near the cabin. makes me worry about letting the kids run around in the woods a bit.
I do not live in wolf territory, but I do admire them from afar. They are definitely not cute and cuddly.
They are what they are, the top of the food chain, along with bears and cougars.
If you let your dog or your cat roam in wolf territory there is a good probability it will be taken by a wolf.
But ask the average person this question:
If you live in wolf territory and you are driving yourself and your kids to your cabin 50 to 100 miles away and your going to spend a week out in the woods. What is a bigger threat to your family, Wolves or deer?
The answer is:
Deer of course, you are hundreds of times more likely to be injured/killed in a car-deer collision on the way to your cabin than in an encounter with a wolf.
They are what they are, the top of the food chain, along with bears and cougars.
If you let your dog or your cat roam in wolf territory there is a good probability it will be taken by a wolf.
But ask the average person this question:
If you live in wolf territory and you are driving yourself and your kids to your cabin 50 to 100 miles away and your going to spend a week out in the woods. What is a bigger threat to your family, Wolves or deer?
The answer is:
Deer of course, you are hundreds of times more likely to be injured/killed in a car-deer collision on the way to your cabin than in an encounter with a wolf.
lofsfire
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Oh also here an email I received a while back about a Moose in the UP.
"By the length of his beard and the grey legs, I figure he must be over 10 years old.
He looks to be well over 8 feet at the top of the shoulder hump, and with his head
up the height to the top of his antler must be about 12 feet. This guy is king of the
forest, no bear or pack of wolves would dare come after him when he has this rack.
Considering that a dirt road can fit 1 1/2 cars across ... this fellow is HUGE!
The photo was taken in Eliot Lake , near Sault St. Marie , MI ."
"By the length of his beard and the grey legs, I figure he must be over 10 years old.
He looks to be well over 8 feet at the top of the shoulder hump, and with his head
up the height to the top of his antler must be about 12 feet. This guy is king of the
forest, no bear or pack of wolves would dare come after him when he has this rack.
Considering that a dirt road can fit 1 1/2 cars across ... this fellow is HUGE!
The photo was taken in Eliot Lake , near Sault St. Marie , MI ."
06ATTAK,
Thats exactly the attitude of people who don't live in wolf country "If you let your dog or your cat roam in wolf territory there is a good probability it will be taken by a wolf."
What if a wolf takes it when you let it out at night to go to the bathroom? What if a wolf takes it in the front yard while you are watching it out the window? Thats not the same as letting it roam and that has happened. Thats why many people who live in wolf country don't like them. I have a friend in Ely who talks about the pets that get taken right in town.
Again, I don't claim to know the answer but I can at least see both points of view.
Thats exactly the attitude of people who don't live in wolf country "If you let your dog or your cat roam in wolf territory there is a good probability it will be taken by a wolf."
What if a wolf takes it when you let it out at night to go to the bathroom? What if a wolf takes it in the front yard while you are watching it out the window? Thats not the same as letting it roam and that has happened. Thats why many people who live in wolf country don't like them. I have a friend in Ely who talks about the pets that get taken right in town.
Again, I don't claim to know the answer but I can at least see both points of view.
lofsfire
Active member
Yeah, Kinda figure that, any thing with a rack that size would not make it long, it would not be able to move around in the forest like other animals. There for it would have to use the forest roads all the time and would end up on someones wall real fast.