Need some advice from KLIM Outer clothes owners

[dcfroe]

OK so I am going to bite the bullet and spend the money however I want to make sure I spend it wisely. I ride in the UP and am going to go to Canada this winter as well. Ride trails only and want to stay warm and dry. Would love it if I did not have to wear Under Armour to stay warm but I get cold easily. What do I want to buy, as I see it choices are Togowee, Kenweena, or Klimate. What is the good and the bad? Or am I missing something? If I decide to finish it out what Jacket as well?

Thanks in advance JD Family!

 

[polarisrider1]

OK so I am going to bite the bullet and spend the money however I want to make sure I spend it wisely. I ride in the UP and am going to go to Canada this winter as well. Ride trails only and want to stay warm and dry. Would love it if I did not have to wear Under Armour to stay warm but I get cold easily. What do I want to buy, as I see it choices are Togowee, Kenweena, or Klimate. What is the good and the bad? Or am I missing something? If I decide to finish it out what Jacket as well?

Thanks in advance JD Family!

Klim has no bad. Just different levels of warmth. I have almost 2 of everything they make in Base and mid layers.

I like the Agrgresser pant and top as a base layer, then Everest Pants and a Klim jersey with Klim Tek vest for mid layer. Then top off with Togwotee bibs and a Summit or Tog. Parka.(I wear an RMK Parka w/o the liner.) Don't forget the Klim socks and the Summit or Togwotee gloves. Top it all off with a True Adventure Gear backpack. Boots, I have several, I like the Bill Townsend RUoutside boots.

 

[Firecatguy]

if your a trail rider i would maybe look somewhere else for warmth....klim is a layering thing they do have the Warm parka but for the money you could find alot warmer product......if your looking to layer look at motofist there price point is way better than klim and has just as good if not better product

 

[Dave_B]

PR1
What to you (or anybody else) Think of the Klim Revolt jersey as a base layer. I went shopping yesterday and the Under Armor stuff is way overpriced. I have been using a Gander Mountain brand base layer shirt but want to upgrade.

I'm thinking of this setup. Revolt Jersey, Fleece mid (if it's cold), Tek Vest and HMK Voyager jacket.

Thanks!
Dave

 

[Firecatguy]

your base layer should be a moisture wicking layer.......revolt is an outer warm layer

 

[whitedust]

Look up FXR many more choices styles & sizing than Klim & much better bang for the buck. You will like FXR & see a lot of it on the trail not so much Klim out there but excellent too. With money you can save with FXR you can buy a coreprotector or tekvest to add warmth then buy new outer layers. I would not ride without protection or purchase new jacket until I had protection keep you both warm & safe.

 

[Dave_B]

your base layer should be a moisture wicking layer.......revolt is an outer warm layer

I looked up both the Aggressor and the Revolt on the Klim website. Both claim to have moisture wicking features but, for $5.00 more, the Revolt looks like it has alot more to offer.

Any other advice would be appreciated.
Dave

 

[Admin]

dcfroe-

If you ride mainly trail, then the Keweenaw Parka is for you. It has the added layer of insulation to it that makes it a warm jacket, much like other riding gear out there with insulation to it, only it has Gortex in it, so you will stay dry, but your perspiration will be able to escape and keep you dry from your own bodily moisture too.

You will need at least one layer underneath the jacket as well, and it really has to be something synthetic like polyproplene. If you get any jacket from Klim and want to wear a cotton t-shirt or a cotton t and then a cotton sweatshirt, then you may as well save your money and get any brand of riding gear.

There really is a method to using a higher end gear like Klim. You need to have no moisture attracting fabric on you at all, that basically means no cotton at all. It really does not matter what kind/brand of base layer you use, as long as it is free of cotton (not even a small percentage allowed). I have used base layer stuff from Walmart and it worked well. Just make sure it is 100% synthetic to allow your sweat to pass through and not get absorbed. Same thing goes with any mid layer. I use a fleece jacket and sometimes a fleece crew neck sweatshirt and the fleece jacket if it is really cold, then add the outer layer.

The outer layers like the Togwotee, Valdez and Tomahawk are all just a shell, which means it will keep you dry from the outside and also protect you from the wind, while allowing your sweat to escape, but does not offer much thermal protection.

So my reccommendation to you would be the Keweenaw outer layer, then a mid layer of fleece and a base layer of polyproplene.

I will admit that the price of Klim is more than other gear makers, but unless you like to get a new jacket ever year or two (for any reason), the Klim stuff will most likely last you for a decade or more of riding, which makes it less expensive in the long run. I know I am on year 7 for a pair of bibs and they are like the day I got them. I know someone that is on season 15 with his Klim bibs and while they look quite dingy, he says they still work as good as they day he got them and is why he keeps using them. So you are paying more, but getting much better performance (rode with guys this weekend and was the only one not overheating) and much longer durability.

Dave-B-

The Revolt Jersey is not really a base layer. It is more of a jersey to be worn over a base layer. I use my Revolt a lot while riding an ATV when temps are not real hot, but I also wear a shirt underneath it. I suppose you could use it as a base layer, but it will not be as comfortable against your skin as the Aggressor and also not as warm. If you are looking for a true base layer, that would be the Aggressor.

-John

 

[polarisrider1]

I looked up both the Aggressor and the Revolt on the Klim website. Both claim to have moisture wicking features but, for $5.00 more, the Revolt looks like it has alot more to offer.

Any other advice would be appreciated.
Dave

You wear the aggressor under the revolt. The Revolt jersey is not warm. I wear it because I wear a teK vest and they work well together. The teK vest can move freely with the smoothness of the Revolt jersey If I start to get cold I slip on the Klim inferno shirt as a liner for my RMK Parka/jacket. I do not get cold in the chest area naturally. If you want to stay warm as in trail riding type warm then definately get the Agressor base layers, and the everest shirt and pants for mid layer. I can not wear the everest top since it is to warm for me, on or off trail. I totally love the everest pants. I lucked out and ordered 1 pr. and the mail order Co. shipped me 2 pr. for 1 money! Bonus. Just shop the snot out of Klim wear. Shadetree has good pricing, check online for closeouts, I actually buy some of my Klim gear at Togwotee Gift shop (store is 80% klim) at Hill Climb week. They give you the 10% off on the pkg. deal and you get the sale price. Tog. bibs I pd. $185 there. socks $9.00, Tog. Gloves $55 pr. Pick up the gear at snow shows (last day) works well. Sounds complicated but it is not.

 

[polarisrider1]

Thanks John, you were just a hair quicker than me! lol. I also recomend www.ruoutside.com gear. I don't like their gloves but had good luck with the rest. They have good pricing, get on their email list and you get better deals from them. Johns answers are perfect.

 

[Dave_B]

Thanks guys!

It looks like I'll pick up 1 of each (and hope they send me 2 by mistake )

I also love by Bill Townsend boots and would recommend them to anyone, if you can find them.

Dave

 

[skidont]

I myself am a big fan of the Klimate jacket / bibs mostly because I dont use a truck and trailer where ever I go riding . If temp changes I have to ride and want to be warm as possible

 

[snowhawg]

Klim Clothes

Do not buy the Togwotee bibs. They are great for keeping dry and off trail riding, but you would need about 3 layers beneath for cold weather trail riding. Just not insulated enough or at all.

I tried them 2 years ago and froze. Buy the Keweenaw bibs. I just got them and they are perfect for cold weather trail riding. Plenty of insulation and the chest and back of the bibs helps there, too, although not insulated.

 

[polarisrider1]

Thanks guys!

It looks like I'll pick up 1 of each (and hope they send me 2 by mistake )

I also love by Bill Townsend boots and would recommend them to anyone, if you can find them.

Dave

Only sizes 6 and 7 left. http://www.ruoutside.com/bill-townsend-boot.html

 

[indy_500]

PR1
What to you (or anybody else) Think of the Klim Revolt jersey as a base layer. I went shopping yesterday and the Under Armor stuff is way overpriced. I have been using a Gander Mountain brand base layer shirt but want to upgrade.

I'm thinking of this setup. Revolt Jersey, Fleece mid (if it's cold), Tek Vest and HMK Voyager jacket.

Thanks!
Dave

I bought the Klim Revolt Jersey this fall, for $35 you can't go wrong. Under Armour Cold Gear is $50-$60. I mostly wear the jersey as a shirt to school and not while snowmobiling. I'll try it this year and let you know, but it is one sweet jersey.

 

[Hoosier]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but for you layering guys that use one of the shell jackets. Do you wear the thick insulation piece outside of the bibs like a jacket or inside the bibs like a shirt? Just wondering for sizing.

I am personally looking at either the Klimate or the Keeweenaw jacket. Don't know if I'll pull the trigger this year, but that's what I'm looking at. I tried on the Klimate at Cabelas (only Klim they carry), and I was impressed by it. It has some vents, so I think that might work well for me. I'm hesitant about the Keeweenaw because of the price difference. In addition to the extra $100, you also have to buy the insulating midlayer. I assume you want to buy a quality one. From Klim, etc., this can be another $100. I do like the extra pockets, etc. that the Keeweenaw has, and I will have this for a very long time, so I'm not quite sure which one to go for.

 

[Dave_B]

Looks like I'm going with the R.U. Outside Polarmax Base Layer Crew and the Klim Revolt Jersey.

With a fleece for cold days, Tekvest and jacket, I think I'll be good.

Thanks to all who gave advice!
Dave

 

[Dave_B]

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[Dave_B]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but for you layering guys that use one of the shell jackets. Do you wear the thick insulation piece outside of the bibs like a jacket or inside the bibs like a shirt? Just wondering for sizing.

I am personally looking at either the Klimate or the Keeweenaw jacket. Don't know if I'll pull the trigger this year, but that's what I'm looking at. I tried on the Klimate at Cabelas (only Klim they carry), and I was impressed by it. It has some vents, so I think that might work well for me. I'm hesitant about the Keeweenaw because of the price difference. In addition to the extra $100, you also have to buy the insulating midlayer. I assume you want to buy a quality one. From Klim, etc., this can be another $100. I do like the extra pockets, etc. that the Keeweenaw has, and I will have this for a very long time, so I'm not quite sure which one to go for.

I wear a fleece jacket or the jacket liner if it's cold outside the bibs and under the armor.
Dave

 

[legend02]

dcfroe-

If you ride mainly trail, then the Keweenaw Parka is for you. It has the added layer of insulation to it that makes it a warm jacket, much like other riding gear out there with insulation to it, only it has Gortex in it, so you will stay dry, but your perspiration will be able to escape and keep you dry from your own bodily moisture too.

You will need at least one layer underneath the jacket as well, and it really has to be something synthetic like polyproplene. If you get any jacket from Klim and want to wear a cotton t-shirt or a cotton t and then a cotton sweatshirt, then you may as well save your money and get any brand of riding gear.

The outer layers like the Togwotee, Valdez and Tomahawk are all just a shell, which means it will keep you dry from the outside and also protect you from the wind, while allowing your sweat to escape, but does not offer much thermal protection.

So my reccommendation to you would be the Keweenaw outer layer, then a mid layer of fleece and a base layer of polyproplene.

I-John

John,

Thanks for the info, I bought the Keweenaw Parka and was cold just wearing two long sleeve cotton shirts which is what I usually wear under my old Skidoo coat, and I was a little cold this past weekend, I switched one short for a sweat shirt and was much warmer the next day, guess I will go out and buy some synthetic like polyproplene under garments before the next trip, other than that the Coat is awesome.