No studs hurts
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uh no, did you ever feel your truck loose traction when you werent in 4wd?
slow down? as i said i was going maybe 5-10 but was turning in a snow covered field any slower and i would have been sitting still
im an idiot, should have known there was frozen over snow melt under the snow, not
sometimes **** happens
In Colorado and Wyoming yes they do
when i lived in vegas i went skiing in the mountains and drove by all these people putting on chains and just laughed, i was in a 79 firebird, of course they might have been thinking better safe than sorry....i was thinking i grew up in this and its no big deal....
that is kind of what i am thinking now, better safe than sorry, its just the throwing studs that bothers me.....(and my ribs
)There are many places when it is poor conditions they REQUIRE chains for you to continue, or you are told to turn around.
Does that explain over throttling on a sled? Not really.
Maybe I've just been lucky, but personally I think the throwing studs scare is overrated. Not saying it can't, won't, or doesn't happen, but I don't think it's as common as some would make it out to be. You hear the horror stories, but you don't hear from the many more who have never had a problem (knock on wood). I've probably 20,000 miles under my belt and never had one pull out or tear out. Bent maybe a handful. None of the guys I ride with have ever had problems, either.
That being said, I don't ride it like I stole it. Maybe more aggressive riding increases the chances of throwing them, I don't know. But to me, it's an acceptable risk. Better a stud through the cooler and be able to walk or be towed out, than to lose control, crash, and be hauled out by EMS.
No matter what, though, studs are no substitute for common sense and riding according to the conditions. They're just an added margin of safety.
That being said, I don't ride it like I stole it. Maybe more aggressive riding increases the chances of throwing them, I don't know. But to me, it's an acceptable risk. Better a stud through the cooler and be able to walk or be towed out, than to lose control, crash, and be hauled out by EMS.
No matter what, though, studs are no substitute for common sense and riding according to the conditions. They're just an added margin of safety.
agriffinjd
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I don't like studs. Had them on a used snowmobile I bought a few years ago. Put them on my wife's sled. Just don't like the damage they do underneath.
That said, there's no denying it can be safer with studs. I've come over a hill or two only to hit a patch of ice that the sun was kind enough to put in the middle of the trail. Not a fun feeling. Never crashed due to not using studs though. I guess I'm used to it as it's all I've every really known.
When I have to replace my track, I plan on getting the ice ripper or ice attack or whatever it's called, with the built in studs in the lugs. Just enough to be safer, but no risk of throwing a stud or ruining the undercarriage, or having too much grip on corners and overpowering the skis.
I think it's funny how this turned into an argument (mostly friendly) about studs vs. no studs. The original post was about the poor guys getting hurt after transitioning from years of studded-riding to riding without studs. Hope you start feeling better soon!
That said, there's no denying it can be safer with studs. I've come over a hill or two only to hit a patch of ice that the sun was kind enough to put in the middle of the trail. Not a fun feeling. Never crashed due to not using studs though. I guess I'm used to it as it's all I've every really known.
When I have to replace my track, I plan on getting the ice ripper or ice attack or whatever it's called, with the built in studs in the lugs. Just enough to be safer, but no risk of throwing a stud or ruining the undercarriage, or having too much grip on corners and overpowering the skis.
I think it's funny how this turned into an argument (mostly friendly) about studs vs. no studs. The original post was about the poor guys getting hurt after transitioning from years of studded-riding to riding without studs. Hope you start feeling better soon!
Good post russholio!!
It's a personal decision to use traction products. I have used them in previous sleds, but not in the current one.
Throwing a stud or having a tear out is possible, but as mentioned, overrated. With studs, you need to use caution when approaching and crossing roads, and if you're on trails that happen to have exposed tree roots, rocks, etc. that are unavoidable, take it easy. Also, how many that use studs have installed them and used a torque wrench when tightening them, and occasionally re-check them? Lack of maintenance could be more of an issue with track damage by stud use.
No matter if you use/don't use traction products, use your head when on the trail, everyone wants to make it home safely! Oh yeah, don't forget your protective gear!!
It's a personal decision to use traction products. I have used them in previous sleds, but not in the current one.
Throwing a stud or having a tear out is possible, but as mentioned, overrated. With studs, you need to use caution when approaching and crossing roads, and if you're on trails that happen to have exposed tree roots, rocks, etc. that are unavoidable, take it easy. Also, how many that use studs have installed them and used a torque wrench when tightening them, and occasionally re-check them? Lack of maintenance could be more of an issue with track damage by stud use.
No matter if you use/don't use traction products, use your head when on the trail, everyone wants to make it home safely! Oh yeah, don't forget your protective gear!!
groomerdriver
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So if/when I use studs again, what brand should I use?
Much like oil, you should use the most expensive you can, that way you know you're getting the best!
Just kidding, couldn't resist....in all seriousness, I think that's somewhat like asking "what's better, GM, Ford, or Chrysler? (or Doo, Poo, Cat or Yammi). Ten different people will probably give you ten different answers. Everybody will have their favorite, but it really boils down to your budget and what you're trying to accomplish.
XCSP -- thanks for the vote of confidence. Just stating my personal experience and what's right for me -- but of course everybody is different so what's right for me may not be for somebody else, and that's cool. We're all on the same team!
Extreme max sold at port yamaha and use tall lock nuts also extreme max I have thousands of miles on them no broken ones but the tall nuts are key to that
polarisman_98
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Well said.
I have thousands of miles on Woody's Gold Diggers with a perfect score. Double backers are strong with less of a chance for a pull out. I also re-torque a couple of times during the season.
Have used the same in several sleds with excellent results.