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Black7

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We'll I was pretty close.
Thought Cowboys beat themselves with they're play calling, not running ball second half.
Pack defense definetly picked it up and came thru second half.
Even if the "call" went Cowboys way, Rodgers still would had 4 minutes.

Love to see them win next week but just don't see it.

Concur.

Playing in Seattle...not betting on that one. But, I do know a few Seahawks fans that I'd enjoy razzin' if they did pull it off and beat the 'Hawks.;)
 

timo

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yup cowboys kinda shot them selves in the foot with the play calling.
toward end of the first half 3rd and 1 and they pass incomplete then miss the field goal, we move down kick the field goal. huge 6 point momentum swing going into half there. why they wouldn't run murray twice there is puzzling?

that strip by peppers saved a sure td. that was huge!

for anyone to think the refs gave them that game obviously don't know the rules in today's football. you may not like the call on the dezz catch but it is the rule. personally i think the rule it bogus and i would tell ya that's definitely a catch, but it is the rule.
that call wasn't nearly egregious as the flag the refs picked up last week against the lions. two totally different circumstances.

what can you say about rodgers. he played some big boy football in that 2nd half.
that rope to the TE Rodgers in the 4th quarter may have been the best pass i've ever seen him throw. and with one leg none the less.

now it's on to seattle would be feeling alot better if it was at home but we can beat them. gonna take a great game plan executed flawlessly but can be done.
 

momoney2123

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Yup it is the rule, but by all means a stupid one. The only reason that is incomplete is because he reached out for the endzone. I do think green bay probably would have at least scored a field goal to tie it and go to overtime if dallas completed 2 point conversion. And then likely won anyway. but would have been a lot more entertaining if they counted the TD.

I also agree that GB can win in seattle but like you said timo, wont be able to afford any mistakes like they made in the dallas game. rodgers missed a lot of open recievers in 1st half, but made up for it in 2nd half. need 60 minutes vs seattle. hard to envision knocking them off in seattle but we will see.
 
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fusion

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I wouldn't say that was a catch with current rules or before the new rule. In the old days if you made a catch you had to secure the ball going to the ground.
This isn't the fumble rule here, it's the process of the catch. He didn't control the ball to the ground when it clearly hit the ground as he came down.
It wasn't just the tip of the ball either, it was the entire ball was on the ground and he rolled over with it and bobbled a bit more.
I don't think it was a catch either way, but the rule was total control in the football move of the catch.
This rule gets invoked so rarely they aren't going to change it either, just because the cowboys are complaining.
The game wasn't over then either, there was 4 minutes left and I'm sure Pack role down the field to at least a field go.

And I disagree Timo - we would have a "chance" with Rodgers perfectly mobile, but they are not going to beat Seattle. That defense is just too good. The have some very talented, and SMART defenders. Safeties and Corners - you know the names.
I'd take Seattle and give the 7. And I expect that spread to go up at least a 1/2 if not 1 full.
 

timo

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fusion:
upsets happen all the time. that's why they play the game.
spread was 7.5 last night.
i'll take the 7.5 and bet you a "pop" :)



I wouldn't say that was a catch with current rules or before the new rule. In the old days if you made a catch you had to secure the ball going to the ground.
This isn't the fumble rule here, it's the process of the catch. He didn't control the ball to the ground when it clearly hit the ground as he came down.
It wasn't just the tip of the ball either, it was the entire ball was on the ground and he rolled over with it and bobbled a bit more.
I don't think it was a catch either way, but the rule was total control in the football move of the catch.
This rule gets invoked so rarely they aren't going to change it either, just because the cowboys are complaining.
The game wasn't over then either, there was 4 minutes left and I'm sure Pack role down the field to at least a field go.

And I disagree Timo - we would have a "chance" with Rodgers perfectly mobile, but they are not going to beat Seattle. That defense is just too good. The have some very talented, and SMART defenders. Safeties and Corners - you know the names.
I'd take Seattle and give the 7. And I expect that spread to go up at least a 1/2 if not 1 full.
 
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fusion

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Spread was 7 right after the game, so it's already up 1/2 pt. Money going on Seattle already.
I love the Pack but I'm also realistic. This is a great defense against an arguably great offense.
Seattle has momentum of a 7 game streak and playing with confidence on both sides of the ball.
Green Bay has lost some offensive continuity in the last month and Rodgers injury won't help.
Packers offense struggled a bit more than I would have liked/figured against Dallas, whom I don't think have a great defense.
The Packers will score some points, but I don't see us getting more than 2-3, 3 & outs in this game.
A mobile QB is such a back breaker for a defense, and they are a killer for a team like the Packers with limited defensive speed. (witness game 1 this year, and prior playoff failures against Krap-ernick)
I would have said the Packers were 65 - 70% probability to beat Dallas.
I give them about a 25% chance to go to the Super Bowl.
Trying to temper my enthusiasm so I don't have a stroke on Sunday afternoon.
 
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timo

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Spread was 7 right after the game, so it's already up 1/2 pt. Money going on Seattle already.
I love the Pack but I'm also realistic. This is a great defense against an arguably great offense.
Seattle has momentum of a 7 game streak and playing with confidence on both sides of the ball.
Green Bay has lost some offensive continuity in the last month and Rodgers injury won't help.
Packers offense struggled a bit more than I would have liked/figured against Dallas, whom I don't think have a great defense.
The Packers will score some points, but I don't see us getting more the 2-3, 3 & outs in this game.
A mobile QB is such a back breaker for a defense, and they are a killer for a team like the Packers with limited defensive speed. (witness game 1 this year, and prior playoff failures against Krap-ernick)
I would have said the Packers were 65 - 70% probability to beat Dallas.
I give them about a 25% chance to go to the Super Bowl.
Trying to temper my enthusiasm so I don't have a stroke on Sunday afternoon.

i couldn't agree anymore.
can't wait for sunday.
 

whitedust

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Packers have to throw up an unbreakable Oline wall to protect Rogers from Hawk rushers then Pack stands a chance. Rogers can't run not sure his calf can take a beating that Hawks D could dish out. Rogers is the best QB in the league when his legs are right. Rogers is going to stand there in the pocket & if that breaks down he will a take a beating that his calf won't allow. I'm hoping Rogers does well but without legs not enough going against the Hawks. If Hawks get up quickly on the Pack look out Rogers will get creamed.....it would be better for Rogers & Pack if it is a slow beat down often the way it goes with the Hawks. No matter what happens the Packers have had a great year an look in great shape for next season to make a simular run. Congrats to the Pack they have done the North pround!:)
 
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