Pole building with living quarters

MJL

Member
Anybody have or know somebody with a pole building/toy box with built in living quarters for a seasonal home? Any advice what not to do, building materials, builders, sizes, pictures etc.? Thanks
 

goofy600

Well-known member
That is what I have done. I had a 30 x 48 with 11 foot sides ( high enough for my trailer ). Then put a wall at 24 feet so I have 24 x 30 garage and 24 x30 living quarters in the back, put in a 3/4 bath in the back corner 6x8 room then on opposite side put in 2 bedrooms 10x12. Pn the outside wall of the bathroom I put in a set of kitchen cabinets and a sink. I also put in a high efficiency furnace with the duct work in the attic, have 5 windows 1 in each bedroom and 3 in the living room, kitchen area and with the 11 foot high ceilings the rooms don't feel to small.i like the set up a lot I have a septic set up for if I ever want to build a house on property so I can expand if I want. I didn't think out the plans real good and would have changed where I put the entrance to the building also should have put in a floor drain in garage side for melting snow off sleds and if I moved the entrance door I could have put in a wood stove but for what I have it works well and if I ever build a house I can knock the walls out and get my big shop I want! Sorry so long if you have and more questions let me know I can explain more. Jim
 

Modman440

New member
I don't know personally but a buddy in the car club has his house in his and it's very impressive from pulling up it looks like a boring barn wail around the side and there's a big picture window in the kitchen and it's super nice on the inside it took him 3 years to design it,the. Way he wanted it he has a cold storage area heated garage and then a huge work shop plus his house it's all insane the whole building is over a 100 feet long If you have any specific questions let me know and I will gladly ask him
 

snake

Member
local building code here would not let me start outbuilding until the foundation was in for house,i would check that out 1st
 

catshed

New member
seen lots of them since I'm a spray foam insulation contractor , some are basic and some to Holy cow ! most that I see are in sheds pretty large with 14 -16' walls so there is a loft above living space. Alot of them have geo or outside boilers with in floor heat. they are pretty economical to heat .
 
A friend has a nice poll barn. It's not live in barn, but he used scissor rafters for the extra height and built a loft at one end for the kids play room above a bathroom and work bench area. Plenty of height on the other side for indoor basketball.
 
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G

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Working on my own right now. I live out in the country so codes for the most part are not a problem. I went with 16 and 1/2 sidewalls so I can have decent headroom in the loft part. All built on a 40 by 72 foot hydronic heated slab. Several drains in the floor for melting off the pickup and sled and snowblower. Mine is not exactly a polebarn. I used 2 by 8 for walls. There is 2 feet of blow in insulation in the ceiling. It is easy to heat. I am using mine mostly for a man cave as I also have a real house. When I am done I will pretty much never have to live in the house. I have a washer and dryer and full kitchen and a big bar with a 60 inch TV. I figure that this shed will prolong my marriage indefinitly so therefor it is worth it.
 

xcr440

Well-known member
local building code here would not let me start outbuilding until the foundation was in for house,i would check that out 1st

15 years ago in Sawyer county this was the case as well. Start there. If you can do what you want within the stupid codes, anything can be built.

As grub said, you don't need to build it as a "pole" barn shell. Using traditional construction they will let you build what ever you can afford.
 

skidont

Member
the wife and I are planning our last new home . We had a interesting conversation with a guy that said a 2 X 4 wall with spray foam is stronger and better insulated than 2 X 6 wall with regular insulation , seem possible ?
 

polarisrider1

New member
the wife and I are planning our last new home . We had a interesting conversation with a guy that said a 2 X 4 wall with spray foam is stronger and better insulated than 2 X 6 wall with regular insulation , seem possible ?
Yes. The spray foam also holds moisture between it and the sheathing. I am NOT sold on it.
 

ezra

Well-known member
Yes. The spray foam also holds moisture between it and the sheathing. I am NOT sold on it.
I have seen some homes that have spay foam intended for use being built . they rolled out building wrap out on walls then put the sheathing on then tipped up. that prob addresses your concern

I do have a bud who has been living in his poll barn for over 20 yrs now.
I helped him put it up back then it was going to be a temp situation . he planed on building a house down by the trout stream.
well at this point it looks permanent .
he originally just had 1/2 insulated and had a air stream in there.
air steam still in there with a ultra high polish to her. the 1/2 is now 7/8.
kind of set up like a 50s holiday in poolside including a small pool.
has a huge movie screen. over time kitchen and bath has moved in to big room air stream has been made in to just a master bed with a bath . actually pretty cool set up. but he is a bit of a eccentric runs in the family I guess. his uncle is a pretty famous arctic explorer.
 
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catshed

New member
to respond to the 2x4 construction with most closed cell insulation you can get to a R-22 - R-25 and it does add alot of strength to the wall. Asfar as moisture between closed cell insulation and sheeting the only way is improper installation or a ventilation problem from the outside to make the sheeting wet. Like ezera said we do alot of them with house wrap on the inside on the pole sheds.
 

skidont

Member
I would have thought that the metal walls wouldn't be a problem but I suppose you would get moisture on both sides, wasnt going to use wood sheeting
 
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G

Guest
Best suggestion is to go as big as possible. You will never regret it.
 
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