Questions about current Poo 600

[Hoosier]

So, I'm keep looking at these Indy 600's. I have a couple questions about the current 600:

1. Oil usage - seems like they run lean. Can you turn up the oil pump on these? Should you? What's the right ratio if you want the engine to last? I understand they are set up for the EPA.

2. Fuel filters/EFI system - I understand they operate with some kind of high pressure EFI system for which if the fuel filter gets clogged at all, you risk a burndown. How often do you need to replace these filters? How much does it cost - is there an economical substitute? I seem to remember reading they are like $60/each and have to be changed every 1500 miles or so.

 

[dwz]

Call Paul the service manager at Pat's Motorsports in Greenland 1-906-883-3536

 

[G]

I would have to believe the fuel injection system would have a shutdown or limp mode to prevent a burndown if there were inadequate fuel pressure. My 2006 Apex had that and that was 9 years ago.

 

[Deleted member 10829]

I have both a 2014 Indy 600 and a 2015 Axys 600. I did (ok, rp7x did) turn the oil pump up on the Indy 2 1/2 to 3 turns. The Axys has a few changes to the engine, one of which is an electronic oil pump, so I can't turn that one up.

Again, the engines are different on the fuel filter. The Indy needs to be changed every 2000 miles or 2 years and is not cheap, but don't remember the exact cost. The Axys engine no longer needs the filter change done.

 

[Hoosier]

I have both a 2014 Indy 600 and a 2015 Axys 600. I did (ok, rp7x did) turn the oil pump up on the Indy 2 1/2 to 3 turns. The Axys has a few changes to the engine, one of which is an electronic oil pump, so I can't turn that one up.

Again, the engines are different on the fuel filter. The Indy needs to be changed every 2000 miles or 2 years and is not cheap, but don't remember the exact cost. The Axys engine no longer needs the filter change done.

Good info - I didn't realize the 600 is a little different on the axys than the Indy - or at least the axys 600 got the electric oil pump and different fuel filter.

 

[Deleted member 10829]

The other main difference on the Axys 600 is they put some sort of a bypass thermostat on the cooling system that heats the motor up much faster. I tried starting both of my 600's side by side and the Axys was up to 75 and the Indy was still at 45 degrees. Big difference and will help with engine life for those that don't let their engines warm up enough. Also on the new 800 HO.

 

[indy_500]

The other main difference on the Axys 600 is they put some sort of a bypass thermostat on the cooling system that heats the motor up much faster. I tried starting both of my 600's side by side and the Axys was up to 75 and the Indy was still at 45 degrees. Big difference and will help with engine life for those that don't let their engines warm up enough. Also on the new 800 HO.

The biggest thing with the new bypass tstat on the axys sleds is it will prevent cold shock. When you start my sled after hammering on it all day, you get stuck and 10-15 minutes later you pull the rope the temp gauge spikes to 150+ and drops down to 90. I bet 9/10 guys who own a pro-ride chassis have no clue it does this. I let mine idle until 100 degrees again before taking off every time. These motors are very reliable, you just got to treat them right. My pump is turned up 3.75-4 turns and I'm running a skidoo oil cap since I don't believe the stock one vents adequately.

 

[Hoosier]

That's interesting - I was watching my temps carefully in Ontario a couple weeks back because of the extreme cold, and I noticed when we stopped, once you turned the machine back on the temp was a little higher but then it came down quick before coming back to regular operating range. I assumed that was because the temp gauge measured the coolant temp, but that's just a guess.

 

[indy_500]

That's interesting - I was watching my temps carefully in Ontario a couple weeks back because of the extreme cold, and I noticed when we stopped, once you turned the machine back on the temp was a little higher but then it came down quick before coming back to regular operating range. I assumed that was because the temp gauge measured the coolant temp, but that's just a guess.

Yours is nowhere near as bad as the pro-ride setup. I cringe everytime I see someone start up and smack the throttle on a pro-ride. A lot of guys are running a Etec bypass thermostat on their pro's. It's really not a big issue at all, just pay attention and let it do its thing. They do take a long time to warm up without the bypass thermostat though, mine takes 3x as long to hit 100 degrees from cold startup as my buddies IQ RMK does.

 

[Hoosier]

Yours is nowhere near as bad as the pro-ride setup. I cringe everytime I see someone start up and smack the throttle on a pro-ride. A lot of guys are running a Etec bypass thermostat on their pro's. It's really not a big issue at all, just pay attention and let it do its thing. They do take a long time to warm up without the bypass thermostat though, mine takes 3x as long to hit 100 degrees from cold startup as my buddies IQ RMK does.

I've been told there's nothing worse than not letting them warm up.

One morning when we fired them up the initial temp reading on the sled was -27. Took a long time to get them up to the normal 129 or thereabouts they seem to run at.

 

[snoeatr]

The problem with no warm up is the computer will give it more gas if someone takes off on cold engine. The pistons expand rapidly while cylinders are not expanding with cold coolant surrounding them. Cold seizure is the result. This scenario on a carb sled it will bog out until warm so most sleds wont take off until running for a while. Cfi will go and some crazy people just hit the gas right away

 

[sweeperguy]

I've been told there's nothing worse than not letting them warm up.

A little off topic but what about not letting them cool down some after running hard. I always let my sled run for 2 to 5 minutes when we pull in to stop for lunch, fuel what ever. Alot of guys I've ridden with over the years pull in, hit the kill switch almost before at a full stop. Is this a good or bad habit letting it idle for a few minutes before shutting off? I'm sure I get this from driving diesel equipment that must run before shutting down to cool the turbo. But seems to me makes sense run a couple of minutes before shutting off. ANY ADVISE

 

[G]

If you just got done going 115 on a railroad grade or going WOT in deep snow for two hours with a 163 inch track then -yes- you should let it idle awhile. Otherwise not so much.