Thinking about buying either Scott Wander pants or Scott Honcho bibs. Does anyone own these? I assume the Wander pants are just shells, correct? Are they warm enough and what do you typically wear as layers under them? I prefer the Honcho bibs because they are Gortex but typically stayed away from bibs because I wear a Tek Vest and don't want to look any more like the Pilsbury Dough Boy than I already do. Is the bib part insulated also or just shell fabric? Basically will they be bulky under a Tek Vest? Are you satisfied with the Scott brand?