Sled won't start

robgoggins

New member
Hi all, I'm relatively new to this board - and VERY new to snowmobiling. I recently started another thread titled something along the lines of "How much snow is needed to ride" and received very helpful replies. But this is a different question so I thought I'd start another thread.

About a month ago we purchased two "new" snowmobiles from a dealer. One was a 2017 that is obviously brand new, and the other is a leftover model, a 2015 Ski-Doo MXZ 800 two-stroke. This 2015 model doesn't have any miles on it, so even though it's a year old, it's "new".

Here's the problem: the 2015 won't start. The 2017 starts up just fine. Both have electric starts among many other bells and whistles. When I try to fire up the 2015 all I get is this "electric sound". Imagine one of those small, electric handheld car vacuums...that's sort of the sound I hear when I push the starter button. At first I thought maybe the battery was dead, but I assume there's enough battery power if I'm getting that electric sound. Although now that I type that sentence I recall that the digital display didn't light up at all...so maybe the battery is dead?! Anyway, I don't hear any sound at all that would lead me to believe it's trying to "turn over". I'm following all detailed directions in the operating manual in terms of the starting procedure.

If you all think it's worth trying to charge the battery, what size battery charger should I put on it? I remember when we had a dead battery on our jet skis last summer the dealership told me I would fry the computer if we used a car battery charger. So we purchased a smaller charger (can't recall the specifics), and I'm assuming that would work on a snowmobile battery? Of course I'd have to find the d*mn battery first!

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
 

harvest1121

Well-known member
I would try charging the battery first just use your jet ski charger. The battery is on the ride side opposite of the clutch side I believe. Take the panel off and it should be in view.
 

elf

Well-known member
Have you tried to just pull start it? Does it start then? But yes, it sounds like you need to charge the battery, I'd just use a 12 volt set at 2 amp charge for it and let it sit for a day.
 

catalac

Active member
I have about six of the little trickle chargers that I use on all my batteries in the barn. Go get a couple from Walmart or Farm and Fleet. Let them do there job for 24 hours or so and see if that sled starts. Sounds to me like that is all that is wrong.
 
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Tracker

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ok I am a cat guy but on a skidoo you have to plug the key in like a tether and hear an audible double beep or chirp.....not sure if that year still does it but I believe so.....so make sure that thing is plugged in good maybe wet with finger and twist to make sure contact...and just like a jetski it don't want to go if below 11 amps but battery shows good....not enough spunk....a battery will last for 30 years or longer....IF....you add water every 6 months or check battery religiously and do not let the water go below the anodes....this is what kills all batteries....jay leno has a battery from a 1898 car that owners have done this to over time and they and him add water religiously....my oldest one was 1991 battery doing this...so see if water level is below lines...if it is...get a new one don't even bother with it....if its good...charge it up....and cat has an attachment to add to battery posts so that a charger doink is visible outside under rear of seat to attach trickle charger at your leisure....I do this....and add water.....never ever add elctrolite fluid...that's old school and is not needed.....because HEAVY WATER NEVER EVAPORATES....the acid that is....just add water....that's what evaporates...good luck

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Batteries are not what they used to be. On a sled you will be lucky to get three years out of one. If I were you I would just go out and get a new battery. You could screw around with it for half a season trying to charge it and having it fail on you on a trip. It went dead for a reason. You have way over 15 grand invested. Invest another 100 and be done with it.
 
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Tracker

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Batteries are not what they used to be. On a sled you will be lucky to get three years out of one. If I were you I would just go out and get a new battery. You could screw around with it for half a season trying to charge it and having it fail on you on a trip. It went dead for a reason. You have way over 15 grand invested. Invest another 100 and be done with it.

grub....google how to keep your battery for 100 years....nothing has changed...except gel....I don't do gel...they don't last....good ol acid/water battery
 

durphee

Well-known member
Welcome to the world of powersports! Always some thing to tinker with! Above advise is good, check your terminals and hook ups at the battery, maybe it doesn't have a great connection or even corroded a bit. Most likely just a drained battery, should be the easiest fix you'll ever have on a sled! Good luck and have fun riding! If you every want to ride the Hayward area let me know!
 

yoopermike

New member
Go on dootalk, lots of info there about your issue. Definitely try charging the battery first. I get the same noise you describe when I accidentally drain the battery on my ATV. If its not the battery, could be other electrical connections. Pull connections to the battery and soilenoid and clean everything up and put on some di-electric grease. If that doesn't work, it might be your solenoid. Personally, with a "new" sled, as you put it, I would be bringing it back to the dealer. If it doesn't have pull start, you could try starting it off the primary with the emergency rope included in your tool kit. Instructions on how to do this are in the sled manual, which should be tucked into the under side of the seat.
 

robgoggins

New member
Wow, this might be the best forum I've ever been involved in. You guys respond fast! Thank you!!! I think I'm going to start with the small battery charger on trickle charge. That always worked well w/the jet skis when they go too long without use. If necessary I'll happily replace the battery for ~$100 (sorry, I work and travel so much, and have too many toys to pay attention to battery water levels. Plus, I just imagine I'm going to wind up with acid on my face in some horrific accident!). Thanks again guys.
 

momoney2123

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Its def a dead battery. If the 2015 is brand new and the dealer never disconnected the positive this would make sense. I would recommend talking to the dealer to get a the battery warrantied. Even if it takes a charge, When it gets cold a good battery is a must on these 800s. or else you will have to jump it or use the rope around the primary as most 800etecs to not come with a pull start backup.
 
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grub....google how to keep your battery for 100 years....nothing has changed...except gel....I don't do gel...they don't last....good ol acid/water battery

Well Tracker there were no snowmobiles 100 years ago. I fully believe that you can keep a battery alive for a long time if it spends its time sitting stationary and in a place where temps do not fluctuate 130 degrees. Up here we ride ditches. There is a lot of air time over field crossings and some of the landings can be harsh even with the wonderful (cough cough) suspensions we have now. The plates in the batteries literally break off and they don't work anymore. And no, batteries are not what they used to be. The principals in design have not changed but they are being built as cheap as possible with crap materials. Just like everything else. If you want a truly good battery the dry cells are the way to go. No plates, no gels or acid. That is what NASA has used for years. I have had some in my tractor for years. Extreme temps do not affect them. However they cost about 3 times as much as a lead-acid battery.
 

POLARISDAN

New member
Wow, this might be the best forum I've ever been involved in. You guys respond fast! Thank you!!! I think I'm going to start with the small battery charger on trickle charge. That always worked well w/the jet skis when they go too long without use. If necessary I'll happily replace the battery for ~$100 (sorry, I work and travel so much, and have too many toys to pay attention to battery water levels. Plus, I just imagine I'm going to wind up with acid on my face in some horrific accident!). Thanks again guys.

there just being nice cuz ur new:cool2:
 
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Deleted member 10829

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I never understood why Doo doesn't have a pull start on all models. They do come in handy once in a while.
 

heckler56

Well-known member
Make sure the tether is well connected and the kill switch is off. If it not one of those go for the battery connections/charge battery.
 

goofy600

Well-known member
I never understood why Doo doesn't have a pull start on all models. They do come in handy once in a while.

It's all about the money. Save $x$ on every sled. But I can tell you for a fact the etec starts so easy with the emergency rope that they give you as a backup. You can buy and install the pull starter but I would not wast the money because the emergency one works just fine.
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
These new Ski-Doos are so darn complicated.
Have to ask, what made you decide to buy a Ski-Doo?
Batteries last at least 4 years, why haven't you called your dealer for service after plunking down many $1000's of dollars on 2 new sleds...are you new to this planet?,...I am sure if your new car didn't start when you got it home , you wouldn't seek out a car website for an answer,...right?....seriously, you were bright enough to earn the cash for $ 20,000+++ worth a new toys...what has your dealership said to do?
 
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