Sno-Eagles Raise annual club dues to....
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snobuilder
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Yeah, you'll be 58 and broke too. Good luck in retirement with no net worth. LOL[/QUOTE]
My net worth is just fine.
I was one of the few that voiced opposition to the trail pass idea. To me it was easy to see that the new members it would attract .....on paper....were only there because it saved them a few bucks.
You don't have to be rich to snowmobile, but being forced to scramble to get a stupid trail pass to ride a few times in marginal snow country is a PITA and is turning off the occasional opportunity rider as well as new riders.
I was in favor of doubling reg. fees and calling it a day.
Yeah, you'll be 58 and broke too. Good luck in retirement with no net worth. LOL[/QUOTE]
My net worth is just fine.
I was one of the few that voiced opposition to the trail pass idea. To me it was easy to see that the new members it would attract .....on paper....were only there because it saved them a few bucks.
You don't have to be rich to snowmobile, but being forced to scramble to get a stupid trail pass to ride a few times in marginal snow country is a PITA and is turning off the occasional opportunity rider as well as new riders.
I was in favor of doubling reg. fees and calling it a day.
Ok so we figured out the issue here. We have found one person who complains about an additional $15 to ride trails that someone else puts in hours of time to provide, so that person can cross someone else’s land, because of the minuscule inconvenience of having to get a trail pass as well as trying to support the efforts of those who provide said trails.
Think about what you are complaining about. And then tell us what kind of snowmobile you ride so we can all laugh at how much you spent on purchasing that sled that an additional $15 inconveniences you so much about.
Think about what you are complaining about. And then tell us what kind of snowmobile you ride so we can all laugh at how much you spent on purchasing that sled that an additional $15 inconveniences you so much about.
I too am curious why snoeagles increased their membership fees by $15? That increase imo is a fair question. Last season was tuff on Eagle River sparse snow ,again imo ,lead to constant grooming of trails to have anything close to decent conditions. I stayed away did all my up north riding north of Watersmeet to find the best snow and those conditions were good enough for a week of fairly good riding forget Vilas just not enough snow for me. Did SnoEagles blow their budget and have a shortfall, did the local biz fall short with donations? To me all fair questions to ask of any club. People respond to logic and seems to me cirrus took the time to ask and says he got nothing in response. Imo he has a fair question that needs an answer or 2. He’s right he has a work around solution that’s easy enough to do that simplifies the trail pass procedure for less money.
I help the clubs any way I can, and don't regret a single minute of time, or dime out of my pocket. I actually enjoy being out in the woods brushing trails, or putting up signs. Many of the people who are there also don't even own snowmobiles anymore. They are there to help the community, and enjoy time with friends. Everyone is different, I hope you get the answers your looking for from the club. They should be able to explain the increase, but to me it really doesn't change my thoughts on being a club member.
ddhanna
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I'm guessing they won't be missing you.
snobuilder
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Because they get paid by the miles groomed.
ddhanna
Active member
Yes but they far exceed maximum supplemental just like almost every northern WI club. The over grooming is basically out of their pocket.
+ This! In a good year, the per mile doesn't stack up. It's on the clubs. Want good trails-------come and volunteer or be a groomer driver.
There's always someone wanting something for nothing.
I shouldn't even do this buuuttttt. Our club has had tremendous success with charitable gambling. Most years we have to argue over having to spend money. We built new digs last fall. Not to shabby. To bad it isn't located in NW Sconny.... Out winters have been iffy at best. 25 bucks a year to join. <img src="https://forum.johndee.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=63141&stc=1" attachmentid="63141" alt="" id="vbattach_63141" class="previewthumb"><img src="https://forum.johndee.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=63142&stc=1" attachmentid="63142" alt="" id="vbattach_63142" class="previewthumb">
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WorkHardPlayHrd
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Show off! 
It is a very pretty building.
It is a very pretty building.
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Did you guys use one of the big names or someone local?
Just an FYI
SNO-EAGLES BRAT SALE
Thursday, July 1st
10AM - 3PM
Trig's in Eagle River
There will be no bake sale component this year due to Covid 19
Proceeds from the brat sale will be applied to the groomer replacement fund. Trail groomers cost more than $200,000 each - the cost of which is not reimbursed by the state. We own three groomers and have an outstanding loan balance of approximately $160,000.
Added note: Sno-Eagles groom an extra 28 miles that are not reimbursed by the state.
SNO-EAGLES BRAT SALE
Thursday, July 1st
10AM - 3PM
Trig's in Eagle River
There will be no bake sale component this year due to Covid 19
Proceeds from the brat sale will be applied to the groomer replacement fund. Trail groomers cost more than $200,000 each - the cost of which is not reimbursed by the state. We own three groomers and have an outstanding loan balance of approximately $160,000.
Added note: Sno-Eagles groom an extra 28 miles that are not reimbursed by the state.
Thanks for update! I assumed groomer(s) had to deal with the increase.
With a $15 increase, that's still only extra $6K based on 400 members. A lot more fundraising to go.
I wish people would have all the facts before they bashed the club. The times we live in....
A couple years ago a couple riders came into my local tavern. They heard I was part of the local club. They started bitching about trail conditions and the "good" money they spend on the club dues. I started laughing. I asked them what the going rate of diesel was? $3. I told them you pay $25 per year. $10 went towards AWSC and the rest towards our club. $15 will get you a couple gallons of diesel. You just helped us pay for a couple miles of grooming one time on our unfunded trail...!! Not including any other expenses! We take care of 70 miles of trails, but only 29 are funded.
With a $15 increase, that's still only extra $6K based on 400 members. A lot more fundraising to go.
I wish people would have all the facts before they bashed the club. The times we live in....
A couple years ago a couple riders came into my local tavern. They heard I was part of the local club. They started bitching about trail conditions and the "good" money they spend on the club dues. I started laughing. I asked them what the going rate of diesel was? $3. I told them you pay $25 per year. $10 went towards AWSC and the rest towards our club. $15 will get you a couple gallons of diesel. You just helped us pay for a couple miles of grooming one time on our unfunded trail...!! Not including any other expenses! We take care of 70 miles of trails, but only 29 are funded.
pclark
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Great explanation to those guys. Unless you are a member of a club, and I mean a real member who works and actually does things for the club you have no clue what is needed every year and how the work gets done by very few members. And as you mentioned the money from the state doesn't pay for everything, clubs who own their own groomers have to maintain and finance them just like vehicles, our groomers are older and constantly need to be maintained. We are lucky we have guys that donate their time to help maintain them. You have to love doing these things and there are only a few that you can count on to really help.
snobuilder
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<br><br>how many brats is that?<br>
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snobuilder
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Lets see ....@ $1.00 per brat profit....if you could get 100 volunteers and each one could make 800 brats in a 8 hour day it would only have to be a 2 day brat fest to pay that puppy off.!