Snow groomers

bigkev

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Question for all you snow groomer operators out there. Our club is looking for a different snow groomer what are teh best groomers out there to get. ie.... snocats???? and what are all the manufactures out there. we
 
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Sno-Bandit Gary

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It depends on the type of terrain you are grooming. Check with the neighboring clubs in your area to see what the plus's and minuses are on their equipment. We have an older Tucker with an Arrowhead drag. Being it is an older Tucker there is allot on maintenance involved.

Gary

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timmer72

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As said previously, the type of terrain makes a huge difference. Our club grooms alot of road ditches which are normally pretty deep from the wind. Lots of floatation and horsepower helps in these situations. We use a Bombardier BR180 with large tracks. Pisten Bully is also very similar. Some of the ag tractor conversions are quite heavy and dont float quite as well. In continuous woods grooming the ag conversions or tuckers work very well and have probably a smoother ride with there independent (four) tracks. Also our club's miles have Alot of road crossings so havin a blade on the front helps push the plow wedges out of the way. We also pull an arrowhead sled i believe which are very versatile.
Again see what type of terrain you mostly have to match it up to the right machine! Good Luck!
 

bigkev

New member
basically it is a lot grooming trails in road side ditches.. most clubs have snow cats just trying to get a feel for what else is out there
 

timmer72

Member
Snow Cats do work well for that type.... I believe they are the Tucker brand. usually most of them have blades on the front.. that helps. Most of the newer ones have all-rubber tracks. They seem to be a little less maintenance. Snow cats are probably the most common in the midwest, so service might be easier.
 

packerlandrider

Active member
We have had two Tuckers, one with the steel tracks and our present one is a '98 with rubber tracks. The old one could get through anything but was so rough that you couldnt ride it down the road without being shook up. Our present Tucker we have gotten stuck more where there is places with 5-6 foot drifts, but still strong enough and with the large surface area of the tracks it can get through alot (had it in our swamp pulling our Track Truck out busting through ice and going through a foot or two of mud and water to pull it out). Also I have heard that the newer models have much bigger paddles on them to do better in the deep snow.
 

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ezra

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what do the new smaller groomers cost now days. not the big tractor things I would guess thay are well past 100k
 

mnguy

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Whatever you get, don't try to save money on horsepower. You can have the best drag in the world but it won't matter if you don't have the HP to pull it.
 

oldguy

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If you have high ground, not much for tight corners, easy driveway approaches, the best bang for the buck is any make tractor. They cost less to fix, can be used for other things then grooming and are more durable. Tractors without tracks are the very cheapest to run. Look for a tracker with at least 100 hp. More than 100 hp if it has tracks.

The big three tracked machines makers are Trucker, Bombardier and Trail Bullies (Piston Bully). These groomers are the best for swampy areas, steep side hills, high driveway approaches and tight corners. The newer the groomer, the more power and better fuel mileage you’ll get. Resale on these types of groomers is the worst, but it also provides you better deal on used ones. New track units are going to be in the $135,000.00 to $160,000.00 price range. Look for 150hp or more on a tracked machine.

When it comes to drags, the length and width would directly depend on how much power you have and how wide and twisty your trails are.

As far who makes the best makes the best groomers or Drags, it’s like asking what’s better a Ford or Chevy.
 
G

G

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We used an older Tucker when trail grooming started here. It had the steel tracks and it was a constant job keeping them in one piece. Also it liked to eat transmissions. This is farm country so tractors of all shapes and sizes are available. Now they use tracked JD's, tracked Cats(duh) and the latest Case/IH 500 hp Quadtrack. We groom mostly ditches here and our main groomer is 10 feet wide. Not sure of the make. Also the guy who has the grooming contract bought a new Piston Bully with the blade on the front for tuning up the crossings and other tight areas we have. He used to have Bombardier track jobs but had durability issues and overheating problems so that is why he went to the Piston Bully. None of this stuff is cheap. The only thing that tends to happen to the farm tractors is that they get stuck because they are so heavy. Tuckers and Bombers cost money just to keep going.
 

bigkev

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Thanks for the comments. We are using a case ih quad track 4 wheel tractor ag tractor to groom now. It works great if you have a base to work with. This year we have ran into alot of snow fast with no base and all it wants to do is get stuck
 
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