Speed Limit for Mi

rsvectordude

New member
That would be the end of trail riding as we know it and push everyone I know of into back country riding. Just say no to speed limits!!!
 

snocrazy

Active member
Yeah. Speed limits are not the solution. I just read the comments on that site.
I agree that alcohol should be the same as a car .08. I didn't know it was .10 for snowmobile. Kind of crazy.

I would like to see officers set up stings in corners which are commonly blown where riders are going to fast and go in to oncoming traffic. The penalty should be a good beating and loss of your sled. ;)

A guy died up the trail from my place here last Saturday night on trial 7. Heard it was riding to fast in corner and was drug-alcohol related. I bet that guys friends will slow down a bit after experiencing a friend dying. It sux it takes some one dying to learn a lesson. Seems to be the only thing that make people think.

Also, most of these incidents seem to take place during the evening. Most enforcement seems to end at 5pm when they punch that time clock.

I have no problem with some one being an idiot and hurting them self. Its the family they crash in to I feel for.
 

tnehlsen

Member
Here in WI 55 at night hasnt been too bad with no limit during daylight hours. Doesnt MN have an all day/night speed limit of 50. Though I saw that when we were there couple years ago. If they do do it, hopefully only at night like WI if any at all. Kind of like it the way it is now up there though.
 

lofsfire

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I would like to see officers set up stings in corners which are commonly blown where riders are going to fast and go in to oncoming traffic.
You mean like this?
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Officer said that this group received only warnings and the reason they were on that corner was more for education than tickets and the fact they were going slow.

PS Michigan does have a speed limit of 55 on lakes and whatever is reasonable for conditions on trails.
Also here is the follow up to the first link 9&10 News.
 

frnash

Active member
Officer said that this group received only warnings … and the fact they were going slow. …
Warnings for what? Going slow? (Whatever caught the officer's attention sure wasn't obvious from the video!)
 
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mxzxrs800

New member
If an all time speed limit is ever passed in wisconsin I'm not gonna bother registering my sled anymore. I won't be able to afford a 40 to 50mph over ticket and I'm not gonna stop riding fast so.... Hello widening kit, full exhuast, and no registration. Not gonna stop anyways so might as well have the sled all out illegal :)
 

lofsfire

Active member
Warnings for what? Going slow? (Whatever caught the officer's attention sure wasn't obvious from the video!)

Watch the video closely and on full screen and maybe even pause it as the sleds go by really look at the trail banks to get a centerline, I had to watch it a few times, but both riders cross the center.

I have to admit I have done this more than once as well. Oh it was also said form the direction the sled where coming it is a blind corner. It could have been consider careless driving. I asked about the speed and what they had done and gave examples of something I have done in the past. None of which I consider careless. No one was around but on a truly blind corner guess you would not know till its to late. Anyways here was is explanation:
Its considered either careless or reckless operation... I would classify going slow on the wrong side as careless, but racing through the trail and blowing to the outside willful and reckless....


CARELESS

324.82126a Operation of snowmobile; prohibited conduct; violation as civil infraction.

Sec. 82126a.

(1) A person shall not operate a snowmobile upon a highway, public trail, frozen surface of a public lake, stream, river, pond, or another public place, including but not limited to an area designated for the parking of snowmobiles or other motor vehicles, in a careless or negligent manner likely to endanger any person or property.


RECKLESS

324.82126b Operation of snowmobile; prohibited conduct; violation as misdemeanor; penalty.

Sec. 82126b.

(1) A person shall not operate a snowmobile upon a highway, public trail, frozen surface of a public lake, stream, river, pond, or another public place, including, but not limited to, an area designated for the parking of snowmobiles or other motor vehicles, in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property.

(2) A person who violates subsection (1) is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not more than $250.00



CAUSING INJURY ( Careless operation )



324.82126c Operation of snowmobile; conduct causing death or serious impairment of bodily function; violation as misdemeanor or felony; penalty; definition; order prohibiting operation of snowmobile.

Sec. 82126c.

(1) A person who operates a snowmobile in a careless or negligent manner causing the death or serious impairment of bodily function of another is guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be imprisoned for not more than 2 years or fined not more than $2,000.00, or both.




CAUSING INJURY ( Reckless Operation ) ( Felony )



(2) A person who, by the operation of a snowmobile in a careless and heedless manner in willful and wanton disregard of the rights or safety of others, or without due caution and circumspection and at a speed or in a manner so as to endanger or be likely to endanger any person or property, causes the serious impairment of bodily function, but does not cause the death of another, is guilty of the offense of felonious operation, and shall be imprisoned for not more than 2 years or fined not more than $2,000.00, or both.

If you want to read the whole thread see this link on SledMI
 

snocrazy

Active member
If an all time speed limit is ever passed in wisconsin I'm not gonna bother registering my sled anymore. I won't be able to afford a 40 to 50mph over ticket and I'm not gonna stop riding fast so.... Hello widening kit, full exhuast, and no registration. Not gonna stop anyways so might as well have the sled all out illegal :)

lol with yah
 

briano

New member
I just sold my sled cuz there are way to many idiots out there, I'm done with sleds. There should be a speed limit then there should be police patrols all day and all night, just think of the money that the state would make.
 

frnash

Active member
Watch the video closely and on full screen and maybe even pause it as the sleds go by really look at the trail banks to get a centerline, I had to watch it a few times, but both riders cross the center. …
"But ossifer, I din't see no centerline painted on da trail!" said the culprit. :)
 

UP RIDER

New member
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[Realy?QUOTE=briano;213536]I just sold my sled cuz there are way to many idiots out there, I'm done with sleds. There should be a speed limit then there should be police patrols all day and all night, just think of the money that the state would make.[/QUOTE]
 

chords

Active member
A day speed limit in MI would never work. First - you need enforcement and presence. Which means documented radar for all 83 counties and equip / time cost.
Second - Anyone going under the limit would be less subjected or exposed to careless driving that today, can be enforced at any speed.

And MI has NO speed limit* on frozen lakes. A great place to let it rip for miles on a good day.
 

squat

New member
I have a relative that works for the DNR. The DNR has and will continue to push for the “no speed limit except where no posted limit” for one reason. The speed limit is you must be in control of your sled. They can stop you at any time they want and say you were not in control. If there was a limit it would take that away from them. You can get stopped going 5mph and all they have to say is you were not in control.
 

anonomoose

New member
Okay...what am I missing here? There is no centerline rule that I know about....unless they just passed something I missed in my snowmo training classes in 1968...

Under control is the key thing. Even though they took the corner a bit wide, so what? This was on flat ground and it is most likely that they could see around the corner to know that nobody was coming, and in which case they can use up the whole darn trail if they want to.

While the flat foot got to ring out the sled a bit to "catch that varmint" I didn't see the guy he chased down, do anything wrong....and he even stopped sooner than I expected with a wimpy siren that might not be heard, but probably the rear view mirrors which are NOT mandatory (does anyone know why?>?) likely helped to see the flasher going.

So what was the educational event that occurred??? Never try to go faster than the osipher...who gets to ride for free??

Do tell me now....
 
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