Studs

eyewalls

New member
doo-sled, when you did yours, how far apart did you do the first row and on down? I was told to go three rows and start over. So do you go like 2-3 inches apart for the first row and just add one inch for the second and another inch for the third, then start over? Sorry for all the questions, but I'm nt real up on this stuff and I really appreciate all the info everyone has given me........
 

dab102999

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You can eye ball them but I would use a template. That way you maximize your scratch lines. Plus it will make it a lot faster.If studs and time are free then it is a very little investment. Do you have a stud drill?? Can do without but is a lot nicer to use one. Also after you put your hole in quickly go over it with a hand torch to burn the cords.
 

eyewalls

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Can I make my own template and what is a stud drill? Wow, the more I ask questions the more I'm learning this stuff. Good thing I just didn't go ahead and start drilling. lol.....
 

whitedust

Well-known member
eyewalls: find a buddy that can help you with studding & protectors that knows the ropes. Once you do it pretty much a repetative job but I would not want you to damage brand new track & proper protection is a must or you will tear up tunnel.
 

doo_sled

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Eyewalls: My "V" patern repeats after 4 rows. I would start with the bottom portion of the "V" and then work outwards. My first row, the backers are almost touching (similar to a double backer) and then I moved outward (I do not know the exact measurements). Be careful not to place a stud too close to the outer portion of the "middle row" - I have been told that your track could tear over time. I agree with DAB102999 - I purchased a Track cutter for my drill and it worked great, however, I did not use a torch for the chords. You can buy a track cutting drill bit on DennisKirk.com
 

dab102999

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The more I read here the more I second whitedust. Need to find someone who has done this or look up a lot of different things on the net. It is more then just drillin and puttin in. Need to watch placement next to edge of track; avoid to placement where to many ride under boggies; make sure you don't get to tight (which is easy to do); make sure studs aren't to long; Are these new studs or used?? If used make sure to get new nuts or use some removable lock tight. I might have missed some things and don't get me wrong, it isn't hard. Just a few things you need to know before you start. I have been on and owned sleds since the 70's and the sled I have now is the first one in 20 years that isn't studded. I am a little worried about it and will see how things pan out. May have to get a different track if I don't like it and stud that one.
 
G

G

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Unless you own a mountain sled studs are a safety thing. I wouldn't be without them. I don't even like riding with people that don't stud. You never know when they will be hitting you from behind when they can't stop.
 

eyewalls

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I appreciate everyones input. I'll try and find someone that has done this before. I never realized all the technical things to look for and do with this. I will get it done and hopefully be riding as soon as the snow flies. Again, thanks to everyone that has helped me out!!!
 

whitedust

Well-known member
Maybe search out stud grip or something like that. Seems that would be much easier for you & looks interesting & don't think it looks very difficult to do. Still need protectors. I started video but have no idea what lauguage he was speaking so jumped off but would exspect if I stayed on video would have been visual enough. Also saw in recent snomo mag.
 

eyewalls

New member
One more question. My studs that I'm going to put on are Woody's Grand Master and on the Woody's home page. it says that these should only be used on single ply tracks and not double ply. Why would that be? Mine is a double ply.
 

whitedust

Well-known member
That means you have the wrong studs too short return them. Take a look at gripstuds very easy to install & will give you what you want for 583 with 10,000 miles. Doo went to single ply track with XP to save weight. Now others doing the same.
 

eyewalls

New member
These studs I got for free. That's why I want to use them. So what I am asking is would they work even though the shoulder won't meet the backer and what is the purpose of the shoulder coming in contact with the backer. I believe they are long enough, so I'm not worried about that.
 

michaeladams

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i love fishtailing around icy corners.it'd be real bad if i had more than 4 inch carbides.i had an artic cat that was all studded and was more tired after riding that one than the one without studs.
 

special_k

New member
Eyewalls, is there a dealer near you? If I were you, I'd stop by and ask for their advice. If you have good rapport with the dealer and you trust them, they should have not problem telling you what you need to know. I know I could do this at my dealer. Just a thought.
 

jimfsr

New member
The biggest problem you will have with the single ply studs is, they will either be too tight and squish the track too much, or you wont be able to tighten them up and they can tear out. I would try to sell them and get the right ones, you are asking for trouble with the wrong studs for your track.
 
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