Summer trails?

fish633

New member
Mezz.
I have to argue the katv map.hancock to calumet and Freda have been open for years to two wheelers.As a matter of fact the Mich. dnr issues a map for those trail that specifically states open to motorcycles.Unless something has changed the katv is incorrect.
 

hybrid

Active member
anyone know where to order a map
im coming up in three weeks
can a sport quad run these trails or do you need a 4x4
thanks
 

mezz

Well-known member
I would strongly urge you to adhere to the Keweenaw ATV Trail map. We don't want to have problems with being able to keep this trail open. Keep in mind, there is a difference in DNR Designated & DNR Endorsed trails. The Hancock to Calumet route is a DNR Endorsed trail as is the Freda trail. The Bill Nichols Trail (3) is a DNR Designated trail which would fall under the DNR's rules. Keep in mind, I am going by what is published on the Keweenaw ATV Trail Map.-Mezz

Mezz.
I have to argue the katv map.hancock to calumet and Freda have been open for years to two wheelers.As a matter of fact the Mich. dnr issues a map for those trail that specifically states open to motorcycles.Unless something has changed the katv is incorrect.

Is the MI DNR Map you have a current 2011 Map? What was open to two wheelers last year may be different this year due to the Keweenaw ATV Clubs trail designation. Perhaps you will need to get clarification from the DNR regarding what is open to motorcycles. All I am stating is the Rule that is printed on the newly published Keweenaw ATV Trail map. Additionally, the information contained in the map legend shows which trails are DNR Endorsed Club trails & DNR Designated trails.-Mezz
 

mezz

Well-known member
Here you go, now you can take this & argue about it with the DNR......
 

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nytro_rtx

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Here you go, now you can take this & argue about it with the DNR......

Mezz,
I'm not arguing or trying to start an argument with you about 2 wheelers on the KATV trails. Just a question, do the trails fish633 is talking about run through private property or is there a chance the DNR map is correct and these trails are legal to ride with 2 wheelers? Again not trying to start an argument, just a question. Doesn't matter to me either way, if it's legal I'd like to ride in the Kee but otherwise I'll just keep riding the Mi-Trale trails.
nytro
 

mezz

Well-known member
Mezz,
I'm not arguing or trying to start an argument with you about 2 wheelers on the KATV trails. Just a question, do the trails fish633 is talking about run through private property or is there a chance the DNR map is correct and these trails are legal to ride with 2 wheelers? Again not trying to start an argument, just a question. Doesn't matter to me either way, if it's legal I'd like to ride in the Kee but otherwise I'll just keep riding the Mi-Trale trails.
nytro


Guy's, I cannot be 100% certain on the questions you raise regarding the legal use of cycles & where, again, all I can point out is what is stipulated on the map. My recommendation is to contact the Local MI DNR to find out. I will however say, it is pretty clear what is stated on this map & it was made clear by John in another post & thread that this was indeed a concern by the landowners whom allowed the trail to go through for only ATV & Side x Side use. I am also reasonbly certain that this would not have been published if it were not so. I know fish isn't happy about that from his previous posts, I also know there are a number of other cycle riders that may not be happy about this, however, this is the rule. There are different rules in different areas throughout the UP regarding what can or cannot be ridden & where. We all know how rules change in a New Yyork minute, isn't it possible that the DNR's publication came out before it was known what area's were involved with the development of this trail & it's requested useage? All I know is that the Club worked their azzez off for 7 years to make this happen, it should be respected. As I suggested earlier, contact the local MI DNR to verify where exactly the 2 wheelers are allowed. I'm merely a mezzanger, no harm, no foul.-Mezz
 

Admin

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Staff member
Just call the MI DNR field office in Baraga for the straight scoop (906) 353-6558.

I am not 100% sure, but I believe all trails that use state owned land can be used on a 2 wheeled vehicle. The trails from Hancock to Calumet and then back down to Hancock from Calumet are state owned. As is the Bill Nichols which runs from Houghton to Mass City.

KATV club might have just decided to error on the side of caution and indicate no trails north of the bridge were legal for bikes, but like I say, check with the MI DNR office for the straight scoop.

-John
 

nytro_rtx

Active member
Just call the MI DNR field office in Baraga for the straight scoop (906) 353-6558.

I am not 100% sure, but I believe all trails that use state owned land can be used on a 2 wheeled vehicle. The trails from Hancock to Calumet and then back down to Hancock from Calumet are state owned. As is the Bill Nichols which runs from Houghton to Mass City.

KATV club might have just decided to error on the side of caution and indicate no trails north of the bridge were legal for bikes, but like I say, check with the MI DNR office for the straight scoop.

-John

Guy's, I cannot be 100% certain on the questions you raise regarding the legal use of cycles & where, again, all I can point out is what is stipulated on the map. My recommendation is to contact the Local MI DNR to find out. I will however say, it is pretty clear what is stated on this map & it was made clear by John in another post & thread that this was indeed a concern by the landowners whom allowed the trail to go through for only ATV & Side x Side use. I am also reasonbly certain that this would not have been published if it were not so. I know fish isn't happy about that from his previous posts, I also know there are a number of other cycle riders that may not be happy about this, however, this is the rule. There are different rules in different areas throughout the UP regarding what can or cannot be ridden & where. We all know how rules change in a New Yyork minute, isn't it possible that the DNR's publication came out before it was known what area's were involved with the development of this trail & it's requested useage? All I know is that the Club worked their azzez off for 7 years to make this happen, it should be respected. As I suggested earlier, contact the local MI DNR to verify where exactly the 2 wheelers are allowed. I'm merely a mezzanger, no harm, no foul.-Mezz

Mezz & John
Again it was just a question is all, didn't know if you guys had the answers that's why I asked. Thanks for the reply from both of ya.
"mezzanger" that's a good one!!! :)
nytro
also learned something new, how to double quote!!!
 
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