SXS question???
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When Textron first started working on the Stampede’s development, engineers knew they needed an engine. Rather than going out and sourcing and engine, they went out and bought the entire engine company – Weber. Weber was a highly regarded German engine company and now, as part of Textron, it is doing some pretty cool things. The Stampede is powered by an 80 hp 846cc twin that is everything you’d expect from a German-engineered motor.
weber
846cc Liquid-Cooled 4-Stroke, Twin Cylinder Single Overhead Cam
arctic cat HDX
695, SOHC, 4-Stroke, 4-Valve w/EFI Single Cylinder
always choose EFI....cat has real EFI....my 2c
weber
846cc Liquid-Cooled 4-Stroke, Twin Cylinder Single Overhead Cam
arctic cat HDX
695, SOHC, 4-Stroke, 4-Valve w/EFI Single Cylinder
always choose EFI....cat has real EFI....my 2c
mezz
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I own one, this thing is military grade & worth every penny. Bought it from Chad @ M&M. Manufacture is Textron, now known as Textron Off Road. I am real pleased with this unit, no comparison to the previous 2 units I've owned. This one will be with me for a while. I'll try & get some pic's for you later today.-Mezz
Thanks. Mezz you sound like all the rest of the reports on these Textron SxS I have heard. Look forward to hearing more. I had wondered if the engine was perhaps a Weber sourced. I did not know of Textron buying Weber though. Perhaps Textron is on the right course now, and not like they were when owning Polaris.
mezz
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They are quite a versatile company & one that does nothing half azzed, they have their hands into many things. Here is a little of what they are about. http://www.textronoffroad.com/about/press-room/3-6-2017/textron-inc-announces-acquisition-arctic-cat-inc-leading-company -Mezz
I am looking to replace my 15 Ranger 900 XP with something and the Honda Pioneer 1,000 is on top of my list, why; no CVT lash. I HATE CVT LASH, especially while plowing with the attached Boss plow.
The Polaris has been great (ahem..Ski-Doo owner too) and it has not hiccupped once, the belt is holding perfectly and all I did was change the oil at home. Plus; there is so little depreciation, 2.5 years will cost me 2k (on the just the SXS), who can beat that?
The last storm in Green Bay was 27 inches, I plowed three times and all I have to complain about is that damn lash that is on any brand's rubber belt driven CVT.
Bear
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Is this the same company that sells (sold) the Weber carburetors that used to be (are) on many engines including some Fords?
Bear
mezz
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Here you go, as you can see, I've put on a few extra's, the one thing that is not on it at the moment is my 6' x 25" KFI Steel Poly snow blade. I was very impressed with the load carry capabilities, low range, don't need it. I plow a lot, CVT lash nonexistent, in fact, never had it on either one of my Prowlers either, must be a Poo thing. -Mezz
This thing really is Bad Azz! Summer doors go back on soon, can't wait. As far as the Weber carb being from the same mfg, I do not know, what I do know, this 900 twin is one heck of a motor, It will take you by surprise.
-Mezz
This thing really is Bad Azz! Summer doors go back on soon, can't wait. As far as the Weber carb being from the same mfg, I do not know, what I do know, this 900 twin is one heck of a motor, It will take you by surprise.-MezzThanks mezz!!! That is a nice looking rig for sure with the "extended cab". As to the Weber carburetors fuji, if my memory serves me right, that was a California racing products company. I used their "full circle" racing clutches, pressure plate, and disks. Lots of Weber carbs used in racing back then, 60's/70's.
tealracing16
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Fun fact about Weber. They made the motor in the Polaris FS and FST's. We had one in school we put the head on backwards to make the exhaust go out the other way. Great solid little engine but Polaris never pushed it and marketed it like Ski-Doo does with there 4 Stroke tech.
Fuji - What is this CVT backlash problem? Obviously my snowmobile has it but I plow with a Sportsman so I must be feeling it I just don't know what it is.
Fuji - What is this CVT backlash problem? Obviously my snowmobile has it but I plow with a Sportsman so I must be feeling it I just don't know what it is.
In my opinion;
Say you are plowing in "drive" and you move your pile of snow and stack it, once you move the gear selector from drive to reverse lash is the "driveline slack" that is created by the components between the drive output of the engine (in the Sportsman/Ranger's case a what I call a centrifugal clutch) and the rear tires that touch the ground. In other words, it is the clunk you hear/feel when you switch between drive and reverse and get tired of after switching between gears 50 times each plowing.
This combo of belt CVT and the rest of the stuff in the driveline make for an inexpensive setup to keep machine costs low but certainly do not provide the rider with an "automotive experience" while plowing.
The belt CVT works good enough when 99% of your riding is in drive but sucks when you are plowing in drive and reverse. It also works great on a sled as we rarely use reverse.
Can anyone provide input on their ownership and plowing experience on the Honda Pioneer 1,000?
Bear
tealracing16
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So to break it down to my simple mind, the shifting between forward and reverse and the backlash of all the components is whats frustrating. I haven't ever had a problem with the belt itself coming apart or breaking, only going too deep into a pile and getting stuck.
I think I understand now. How is the Honda set up? More like an automatic transmission? Still have to shift it?
I think I understand now. How is the Honda set up? More like an automatic transmission? Still have to shift it?
srt20
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You are going to have "lash" in every vehicle. Its from transmission gears, axle gears, and axles. That has nothing to do with CVTs. At idle, CVTs are stopped.
Your weights may have been to light or primary spring to stiff and caused higher engagement and made it seem worse.
All other SxS that have CVT can have the same issue. Even the Yamaha, Kawi, style CVTs.
If you have bad joints in the driveshafts, it will make it worse.
Does Honda use there Hondamatic or whatever its called now in their SxS?
Your weights may have been to light or primary spring to stiff and caused higher engagement and made it seem worse.
All other SxS that have CVT can have the same issue. Even the Yamaha, Kawi, style CVTs.
If you have bad joints in the driveshafts, it will make it worse.
Does Honda use there Hondamatic or whatever its called now in their SxS?
Honda makes a 2 seater with an automotive style transmission, nobody seems to be purchasing them but they are now taking mega-money off.
Bear
snobuilder
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in bold.....What exactly does that mean?