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But my stuff didn't cost that much...
Yes every thing in life is for sale....Just ask...
The Mariner North is for sale.
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But my stuff didn't cost that much...
Yes every thing in life is for sale....Just ask...
Hate to see Konteka fall to bad times again so hope it is bought by someone with staying power. I would suspect Konteka does real well in winter not so well the rest of the year but big part of White Pine economy. I have been staying at Konteka since early 90s & changed hands many times. Great memories based from Konteka with family & buds.
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I agree on the Konteka. I hope it sticks around!
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Maybe not, but can anyone explain why the gas prices have dropped so much so quickly? It makes no sense to me.
polarisrider1
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Don't jinx it. Gas at Barretts Marina is still $4.75 a gallon. They actually went up. No competition for them.
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Back to the cost of these places mentioned, Why would anyone spend 1-2 million dollars to create a job for themselves and all the headache that comes with it, in an area that the return maybe never or a couple lifetimes to just break even? Baffles me.
Hang on a minute. Isn't Konteka the last place for gas between Bergland and Lake of the Clouds? Iicr, there was no gas in Silver City last winter, and the Mobil in White Pine was closed, leaving only Konteka. I sure hope they find a buyer and the business stays open. The times they are a changin.'
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Plan ahead
Yes it is, but if you plan ahead it's no problem. Fill up in Bergland and you will be fine. It's about 75 miles around the loop from Bergland to LOC, shorter yet if you go up and back on trail 1.
Yes it is, but if you plan ahead it's no problem. Fill up in Bergland and you will be fine. It's about 75 miles around the loop from Bergland to LOC, shorter yet if you go up and back on trail 1.
If you stay at Konteka nice to have gas coming & going as Mark says you can plan around no gas in Silver City but I don't like having to go into Bergland for gas always a mess but very doable. Also depends on what sled you are riding & mpg for me I'n not concerned until 120 miles pretty much always gas up at BC no matter where I'm going but end up back at Phelps.
X2 I don't know if these prices are inflated but 100% agree it takes very hard work to make these organizations profitable year round & then to have to sell at a profit as well to whom? Maybe best approach is to shut down in off season take a vacation open back up for winter. I have been tight with some Ma & Pa snomo biz where it made no sense to stay open on certain days at certain hours phone was ringing off the hook but no spending customers coming in the door.
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When I was 15 to 20 years younger I had always dreamed of buying a business up north and living the dream. One day I asked a friend that had recently retired up north if he planed on buying a business up there to keep busy. He put it all into perspective when he asked me, "why would I spend a lot of money to work hard at an often low paying job"? I guess if it was easy, we would all be up there living the dream, eh.
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Many of the places up north were built in mining and logging boom years. Then they turned to into vacation areas when families were bigger, had a little more money, and didn't have 20 different sports and school activities to drag their kids to every weekend. Fuel was cheap, the economy was good, and it wasnt as easy to hop on a plane and head somewhere warm as it is today. For every one wife that can be convinced to spend a week in the Northwoods, there are 1000 that would insist on going to Florida. Unfortunately, places up north will slowly fade away leaving only a very few strong to survive.
The answer to your question is you are working for yourself not busting butt for some big Corp that will throw you away when you get older past prime. I busted butt for big Corps made out very well but came very close to buying
Ma & Pa's & living the dream. At this point happy it worked out the way it did & would not change much of my past with do overs. Could have done better at some things but who wouldn't in 20/20 hindsight? Boomers coming to live in the WI Northwoods for retirement don't know about UPMI?
polarisrider1
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Laying out a million or two to work in an area with little chance of a decent return on investment is insane.
Living the dream doesn't consist of tossing money at such a risk, and puking blood from the ulcers it creates
Living the dream doesn't consist of tossing money at such a risk, and puking blood from the ulcers it creates
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I don't know what to tell ya because I don't disagree & but these places change ownership all the time? Konteka many times always someone ready to buy so there is a market for owners. Who & why could not tell ya?
Several reasons. Many of the refinery issues over the summer in the Midwest and West Coast have been fixed, demand is down now that the summer driving season is over, and refiners are switching to cheaper winter blends of fuel. Crude oil has also dropped substantially in the last six weeks. These four factors together put downward pressure on prices. As oil and refined petroleum products are global commodities, politicians have very little control over something like gas prices. Obama and Romney both know that; it just makes for a good political chess game because it seems 80% of Americans don't.
As for the Mariner, I hope it finds a reasonable buyer. It's certainly a staple in the Harbor. Everyone up there will be hurt without it.
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