The New 2004 Yamaha's

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snobuilder

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united said:
Look at the difference between the 1969 Yukon King vs the 2002 RX1 and look at the difference between a 2022 Yamaha vs the 2002 RX1.
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Yes, from 69 to 2003 was a big jump. Since then, not so much except for what Yamaha has introduced. The 973/1050CC is going on 18 years of domination. Name another with that record.
Ski doo just glommed on to 4 strokes years later. The rider forward Rev only led to the high CG that sadly all sleds currently have. The 2003 and on pure Yamahas are a true hybrid between total sit down sleds and the tippy new sled. Truth be known many sledders aren't snocross wannabes and when the trails turn into Saturday afternoon chit, I guarantee EVERY brand a sled owner is complaining about the riding conditions.....LOL
 
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https://global.yamaha-motor.com/stories/history/stories/0013.html
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Skylar said:
Seckreet spot, I believe that was Porkypine from the old trail conditions.com page?
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Thats the guy! Thank you sir! There was alot of drama on the on trail conditions site, especially in New York. But it was good reading for the most part.
 
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Yamaha was on to a good suspension with the EC Ohlin mono. Problem the mono was radically different from 2 shock rear suspensions the users didn’t know how to adjust for butter smooth studder bumps. Then the Nyto was left out in the cold wasn’t developed to be an outstanding bump sled. Imo I saw the merger of the Apex / Nytro platforms to become the ultimate 4s trail sled. Unfortunately that never happened 1 Yamaha platform with different engines for the masses. Yamaha could have been in control of the 4s sled market but instead gave up. Crying shame.
 
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old abe

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whitedust said:
Yamaha was on to a good suspension with the EC Ohlin mono. Problem the mono was radically different from 2 shock rear suspensions the users didn’t know how to adjust for butter smooth studder bumps. Then the Nyto was left out in the cold wasn’t developed to be an outstanding bump sled. Imo I saw the merger of the Apex / Nytro platforms to become the ultimate 4s trail sled. Unfortunately that never happened 1 Yamaha platform with different engines for the masses. Yamaha could have been in control of the 4s sled market but instead gave up. Crying shame.
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Yam gave up, quit, eh? Imo, they just didn't care, and didn't want to.
 
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The mono suspension in 2005 was not a bad riding suspension but like all the other long travel suspensions it was a speed scrubbing suspension. My 2003 was quite a bit faster than my 2005. And snobuilder is right. No matter what a person rides everyone complains about rough trails. Now as back then. When it used to get rough we would abandon the trails and go to the firelanes. We still do. The only folks that need long travel suspensions are the snowcrossers. The new sleds are really not that much faster than the big horses of 20 years ago and it is because of the high profile and the long travel suspensions. Plus they are all colder to ride than they used to be. You used to have something in front of you. Now it is a race to see who can make the smallest hood. I don't care what is any of the them say about aerodynamics. You seldom ride without some kind of a crosswind and then straight on aerodynamics are out the window. Give me a big old barrel out in front line any of the 2000 era sleds and I will be a lot warmer. And cold is a reason a lot of newcomers abandon the sport after they try it a few times. Also the reason older folks quit.
 
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Wow, that vintage video made me laugh and brought back memories. Riding and working on, riding and working on.... My dad's 1968 Johnson Skee-Horse, 1971 Evinrude Skeeter, and my 1971 Ski Doo 399 Nordic and my 1973 Artic Cat 340 Panther. Never lost a tooth, though.
 
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snobuilder said:
Right on about all sleds you mention. That is why I was confused about the first "Johnny" ad coming out in 2004 as the story goes. Was that ad then for the 2005 Rx-1? No mention of the dial in Monoshock if it was.
Yamaha was on fire for a lot of years.
First fuel injection way back in the Yukon King era.. Then the first high performance air and liquid cooled sleds like the SST(?) SSR and faster than chit 76/77 SRX. Next I guess it was the Phazer craze along with the industries only 4cyl 2 stroke750/800 V-Max. Fast forward to 97 and the red headed triple intro and then in 1998 the "devil in the blue dress" SRX's second coming. In 2002 the Viper. Then in 2003 it was on to the first high performance 4 cyl./4 stroke sled, the Rx-1. In 2004 we got the137" Warrior and in 2005 the dial adjust monoshock along with 2 new models powered by the industries only purpose built 3cyl 4 stroke engine in the Vector and Rage. In 2006 the FI Apex came out and finally the first sleds with EPS.
I guess that is why we still think we should be getting something new every year....:ROFLMAO:

The year before the Rx-I bought my 2002 viper for around $6700.
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I had the original viper (still think that was one of the best looking sleds), warrior, vector, original apex, still have the apex XTX. During that time the amount of change/improvements from year to year caused me to upgrade. Significant enough for me to do so each and every year. Then after my 2012 XTX things just seemed to stop, other than the rear shock thing under the tunnel. Not sure what it's called. If you were someone who liked all the benefits of Yamaha sleds back then it was a great time. I remember during that same time riding a renegade and hated all the feedback on the handle bars. It's really the same now and most people don't care. I'm slowly getting over it but if Doo would add EPS to their sleds it would appeal to all the Yamaha customers who left and went to Doo. I'm one of them. I guess my Doo dealer is happy now.
 
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I had the original viper (still think that was one of the best looking sleds), warrior, vector, original apex, still have the apex XTX. During that time the amount of change/improvements from year to year caused me to upgrade. Significant enough for me to do so each and every year. Then after my 2012 XTX things just seemed to stop, other than the rear shock thing under the tunnel. Not sure what it's called. If you were someone who liked all the benefits of Yamaha sleds back then it was a great time. I remember during that same time riding a renegade and hated all the feedback on the handle bars. It's really the same now and most people don't care. I'm slowly getting over it but if Doo would add EPS to their sleds it would appeal to all the Yamaha customers who left and went to Doo. I'm one of them. I guess my Doo dealer is happy now.
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Sadly we may end up with only 2 offerings in the near future. I don't like it one bit.
 
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snobuilder

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Yeah, well, hurt my feelings, no. However, they did thoroughly piss me off by lying about the "All new, all Yamaha" sled, that was never to be!
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Yeah well you have to admit that Yamaha's innovation changed snowmobiling forever and for better....as you putt around on your 90HP Ski Doo 4 stokes like it is the second coming....LOL well yeah it IS a second coming in the aspect that they followed behind Yamaha but Ski Doo went the LOW performance route....lame.
 
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snobuilder said:
Yeah well you have to admit that Yamaha's innovation changed snowmobiling forever and for better....as you putt around on your 90HP Ski Doo 4 stokes like it is the second coming....LOL well yeah it IS a second coming in the aspect that they followed behind Yamaha but Ski Doo went the LOW performance route....lame.
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LMAO, as Doo sells a whole lot of em, eh! The customers wanted, but Yamaha DIDN"T.
 
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