Tunnel setup on RMK Pro

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polarisrider1

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This year I am trying to minimize what I carry on myself. I found that a base layer, midlayer, tek vest, Shell and backback and a beer gut makes for some movement restrictions. So I am changing things up a bit. Trying to eliminate the backback and beer gut. I decided that the bulk of my riding really does not require the back pack (some may argue). I also decided that I need to shed some of the bulk, so it will be base layer, midlayer, beacon, shell, tekvest and 2way radio and cell phone on my person rest goes on sled. So underhood goes spare belt, spare plugs, extra goggles, extra gloves, tools, muff pot. Under seat bag: first aid kit with it ALL, block and tackle, tow rope, foil space blanket, small fireplace log, zip ties, skull cap, 4 different ways to start a fire, leatherman, 100' of 1/4"line, candles,extra batteries,duct tape, 3 pkgs of klenex, etc. then mounted to seat mount is a tube with avy probes, elec. tape, avy markers (flags), then spare gas tank, then bag at back has: shovel and handle, 5x7 tarp, snobunje, folding saw, whistle, compass, snobunje assorted straps and another spare belt, energy bars.
 

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polarisrider1

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vic_junior said:
Sounds like your getting ready for an appearance on Man vs. Wild.
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I really need to find a place for an axe.(I think Revkev has one). I plan to stay out for a couple days, you never know. Most the guys I ride with also have all this stuff. p.s. and I know how all of it works. I also have First aid training and Avy training but am no pro to either, but if it brightens your day, I can stitch you up while you think we are lost in the mtns. or splint a break and not go into a panic while everyone around me does. Remote Mtn. riding is an entire different beast compared to Michigan trail riding.
 
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attack_06

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For trimming it down.u still got way to much crap.avy kit shovel plugs belts hot pot full of brats one water one beer what else do u need.
 
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vic_junior

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An exception towards the axe idea... Just carry a decent size hunting knife and in the event of needed an axe, just grab a decent size log and hit the back of the knife with it to drive the knife into whatever you are cutting. Saw this method on one of the survival shows and it worked really well. Plus it would take up less room on your sled. Just throwing it out there..
 
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lenny

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Remote Mtn. riding is an entire different beast compared to Michigan trail riding.

No way!! :eek:
 
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RevKev

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Nice list Wayne, I Don't carry an ax or hatchet, but may carra a small hatchet, after finding out last season how well it does "fixing" a bent front bumper.:p You will find your self in disagreement with Mike Duffy, Probe, and shovel should be on YOU, not the Sled. I may do both, as sometimes getting my shovel out of my Pack is a Pain.
 
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cuzzinolaf

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attack_06 said:
For trimming it down.u still got way to much crap.avy kit shovel plugs belts hot pot full of brats one water one beer what else do u need.
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I guess you don't venture too far from the trail out west OR don't go west.

If you think he has a lot I won't even post up my list. I bet I'd be your best friend if we were stranded deep in the bush.
 
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Skylar

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While out west, backpack, fully loaded, is on your back. No exceptions. If you get caught in an avy, and your sled gets buried, but you luckily end up on top of it, but your buddy is no where to be found, how are you going to get him out with your shovel on your sled, that is buried?

If you are worried about carrying around too much bulk, lose some weight.

Not trying to start a pissing match, just surprised you are going this route.
 
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polarisrider1

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Now you guys know why I ride with the likes of Cuzzinolaf and Revkev. They haul more than me. lol. Kevin I do remember the hatchet/hammer you used a bit while out west, thought you was hauling it, thats were I got the idea from.

Skylar, you mention a whole lot of "ifs" and "maybes". My shovel is very light and so are the probes. I do have 2 sets so I may re-look at the shovel/probe on my back idea. We only ride a slope or high mark one at a time and set offset to the slope while watching. It is not a perfect world and many things can and have happened out there to prove what you say is the good way to reduce odds. So far I have never had to have my shovel to dig out anyone other than sleds. I suspect I will be buried deeper than my sled, since my new sled is just over double what I weigh (230#) but covers more then quadruple the mass which keeps it to the top better (in theory). My bright Red or black sleds should be a bit easier to locate under the snow than me. So I could argue that if I am buried and my gear is on the sled than rescuers will also have my gear to use to find me. Now I know this may not hold water because most of this scenerio stuff is full of what ifs. So, If MY SLED and a BUDDY is buried than I am at a disadvantage, true. Not sure of the odds on this combination?? I ride with 4-8 guys for the most part and it is a half backpack ,half haul it all on sled group. We all wear beacons properly attached to us and not to the sleds. So the jury is still out.
 
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polarisrider1

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Skylar said:
While out west, backpack, fully loaded, is on your back. No exceptions. If you get caught in an avy, and your sled gets buried, but you luckily end up on top of it, but your buddy is no where to be found, how are you going to get him out with your shovel on your sled, that is buried?

If you are worried about carrying around too much bulk, lose some weight.

Not trying to start a pissing match, just surprised you are going this route.
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I came about this idea because of back issues i have with a number 3 vertibrate. The tek vest and TAG backpack both have ridged support on my back, kinda like a back board would have. With both it makes for preasure on the vertibrate pretty uncomfortable after about an hour. I truly believe in the tek vest more so than the backpack. I will probably use the backpack out west but also would like to have the gear with me on the sled for Wawa Canada and western up riding. So I may just do a double up shovel and probe out west and not wear the tek vest. not sure yet.
 
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polarisrider1

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RevKev said:
Nice list Wayne, I Don't carry an ax or hatchet, but may carra a small hatchet, after finding out last season how well it does "fixing" a bent front bumper.:p You will find your self in disagreement with Mike Duffy, Probe, and shovel should be on YOU, not the Sled. I may do both, as sometimes getting my shovel out of my Pack is a Pain.
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I do like the do both idea.
 
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skiroule

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I like your tunnel setup but I'm about 10" short on tunnel :)

I do carry a lot of stuff myself (even in the U.P.) and I consider the fact that I haven't had to use a lot of it a good thing. I've tried to cut down my backpack weight myself with limited success.

I used to carry a hatchet and/or a machete but I've switched these out. I now carry a tool from Gerber called "The Brusher" which, in spite of it's name, out-cuts any hatchet I've carried and it will fit in a decent sized tunnel bag or backpack. If things get more serious, I carry a folding saw with real teeth that cuts on the pull stroke (much easier to use). Probably not a news flash but I thought I'd mention it in case others were looking for options.

BTW, at about 230 myself, I consider this about the right man-to-machine weight ratio.
 
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polarisrider1

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skiroule said:
I like your tunnel setup but I'm about 10" short on tunnel :)

I do carry a lot of stuff myself (even in the U.P.) and I consider the fact that I haven't had to use a lot of it a good thing. I've tried to cut down my backpack weight myself with limited success.

I used to carry a hatchet and/or a machete but I've switched these out. I now carry a tool from Gerber called "The Brusher" which, in spite of it's name, out-cuts any hatchet I've carried and it will fit in a decent sized tunnel bag or backpack. If things get more serious, I carry a folding saw with real teeth that cuts on the pull stroke (much easier to use). Probably not a news flash but I thought I'd mention it in case others were looking for options.

BTW, at about 230 myself, I consider this about the right man-to-machine weight ratio.
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Is this it? http://www.gerber-tools.com/Gerber-Gator-Brush-Thinner-31-000083.php
 
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ezra

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what about the black American express to pay for that helli ride out for your crashed/grenaded toy
 
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winter_time

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all you need to complete your list is the 200 ft. of life line rope that my dad carrys it works good for getting arctic cats out of the trees.
 
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