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lenny

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I'm trying anything up here in the economically challenged area called the UP. So yesterday I bought a 2004 VW Touareg (50k rig new) and going to try an flip it. Will try an invest in more desirable vehicles than the run of the mill. It is a risk but I am at that point I need to do a radical something. Now I need a auto body guy to give me advise on clear coat. Car will be for sale soon and will list it in da classifieds. I'm also gonna look for cars that may need a motor or trans that can go cheep that has good income potential.
 

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ezra

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a guy around my house pulls a Triton 3place in line covered trailer with a diesel cayenne.makes me chuckle every time I see it.
Touareg,s and Cayenne are sweet rides is yours a turbo diesel or gas? .
I would think a 04 clear coat would just need to be buffed out or wet sanded then buffed out at most and I would be shocked if it needed the later.
 
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lenny

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mine is a gaser, v8, fully loaded with nav, backup camera, air ride and all. I am gonna ask 11,500 25 yr old kid though he had a serious electrical problem but he blew a fuse and allowed the battery to go low. I fixed it in a half hr and bought it!
 

snocrazy

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The Toureg TDI is bad to the bone. v10 diesel. There is a viseo of one on youtube pulling a 747 jet.

The V8 gas engine has power but sucks the gas down. They are very nice vehicles.

If you are ever looking to pick up cheap cars and fix them up, I just came across a site for a company that sells cars for banks (repo), insurance (totals).
www.copart.com
 
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lenny

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The Toureg TDI is bad to the bone. v10 diesel. There is a viseo of one on youtube pulling a 747 jet.

The V8 gas engine has power but sucks the gas down. They are very nice vehicles.

If you are ever looking to pick up cheap cars and fix them up, I just came across a site for a company that sells cars for banks (repo), insurance (totals).
www.copart.com


cool, that a lot!
 

anonomoose

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I'm trying anything up here in the economically challenged area called the UP. So yesterday I bought a 2004 VW Touareg (50k rig new) and going to try an flip it. Will try an invest in more desirable vehicles than the run of the mill. It is a risk but I am at that point I need to do a radical something. Now I need a auto body guy to give me advise on clear coat. Car will be for sale soon and will list it in da classifieds. I'm also gonna look for cars that may need a motor or trans that can go cheep that has good income potential.

You should already be familar with CARFAX reports, which is sort of a history of the vehicle and what was reported to be done to it by MAJOR companies who work on cars and ALL insurance companies.

Be sure you run them before you buy....because if it reports that you are buying a car or truck that got banged up, or was in a flood, you will have a hard time Selling it again.

While the VW is a neat machine, it is highly complicated and hugely expensive to repair as the dealer has the handle on ALL parts...or at least most of them.

Have fun....life is nothing if not a lesson on what to do and what to stay the heck out of.

Good luck Lenny.....hope it gets you jump started. :D
 
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lenny

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The VW is no more complicated than most luxury vehicles. Couple problems is that it is a foreign made vehicle where parts take a while to get and the biggest factor is the lack of qualified technicians to work on them while the same technologies are present in many American cars. Actually, the Touareg, Phaton are difficult for many dealers to work because they are not quailifed while the Passat, Jetta, Golf,,,etc,,, are not nearly as hard to deal with. Part of the problem is how technology has evolved. The fact that most systems are computerized, the fix is also a command to replace this or that. The mechanics have a harder time learning the dynamics of how the systems operate when they just replace parts. The Cadillac SRX is a sweet car but VW built basically the same concept in 04 (9 years ago) with the Touareg. Most cars today require an education to repair and the higher end luxury more experience and education. The car technology is child's play in the grand scheme of things but qualified dealers is the main problem. The lack of VW dealer in comparison to the entire market and highly qualified mechanics contribute to the high cost of service. I had a problem with the Tiptronic function of the transmission. I researched it on line and seen other with the same issues and I also consulted my nephew. While doing the research I learned some people experienced the dealer replacing a circuit board under the shift handle, reprogramming the trans or replacing a magnetic slip cover. While I did the research to understand the dynamics of how the entire system worked I cam to the conclusion I needed to replave the magnetic slip cover. I searched around and found a dealer on line who stocked the part and was very reasonable compared to some, I was able to remedy the issue for $112 where a dealer would have charged me 4 hrs $170 pr hr and $225 for the part for a total of over $900. My nephew said he is the only Mechanic qualified at his shop to repair Touaregs and I believe him. He also said it is a joke on how many non-quailfied mechanics take a stab at repairing a vehicle and watches the bill go up and up.

I say it's just a friggin car which is all mechanical and electronic, how hard can it be. If there is a will, there is a way. I say all this to illustrate why many believe (and in fact you are correct) that VW is expensive to service but not always the case. More and more highly qualified mechanics are coming up and will lessen the outrageous bills consumers pay but the same is with cadi, Lincoln, navigator, some chrysler rigs, etc,,,,
 
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anonomoose

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The VW is no more complicated than most luxury vehicles. ................I say it's just a friggin car which is all mechanical and electronic, how hard can it be. If there is a will, there is a way. I say all this to illustrate why many believe (and in fact you are correct) that VW is expensive to service but not always the case. More and more highly qualified mechanics are coming up and will lessen the outrageous bills consumers pay but the same is with cadi, Lincoln, navigator, some chrysler rigs, etc,,,,

Lenny, if the above is true ...."I say it's just a friggin car which is all mechanical and electronic, how hard can it be." then perhaps you should get certified yourself and just fix cars that folks have who can't get them fixed anywhere but the dealer?


This would mean that you don't have to "own them" first!

Having the software to diagnose the issues and a "tool" to get parts below rates, puts you in a pretty unique position to take advantage of people who own these cars but don't have a place to get them fixed reasonably. Save them some money and build a pool of clients who will forever need them serviced.
 
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lenny

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not interested in going that route, just giving an explanation to what I have experienced and observed. You don't see VW's at a Caddi dealer now do ya, or a Jag at a BMW. Dealers service their own and nothing wrong with that. The little shops would have a liability issue every time an old school mechanic opened up the hood of an engineering, mechanical and electrical nightmare. I am a cheep old boy who sometimes get in over his head but hey, what the hey. I recently repaired my plasma screen TV. Just wouldn't turn on one day so I opened it up, observed something that caught my attention, researched it and take a shoot at it,,,works great!

If someone engineered it, someone can fix it and you don't have to be a scholar.
 

polarisrider1

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not interested in going that route, just giving an explanation to what I have experienced and observed. You don't see VW's at a Caddi dealer now do ya, or a Jag at a BMW. Dealers service their own and nothing wrong with that. The little shops would have a liability issue every time an old school mechanic opened up the hood of an engineering, mechanical and electrical nightmare. I am a cheep old boy who sometimes get in over his head but hey, what the hey. I recently repaired my plasma screen TV. Just wouldn't turn on one day so I opened it up, observed something that caught my attention, researched it and take a shoot at it,,,works great!

If someone engineered it, someone can fix it and you don't have to be a scholar.

not sure sure about the last statement when all the inards are on a circuit board imbedded in plastic such as the temp air/heat controller on my boat. Or inside a credit card size calculator. but I get what your saying, "It is not all Rocket science".
 
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