Voltage regulators

frnash

Active member
Failing voltage regulators seem to be such a common problem with sleds, but strangely not so with automobiles.

Voltage regulators seem to be rather uncomplicated gadgets. Are there any automotive or "'lectrical injuneers" here that can "splain" what's so problematic about voltage regulators, particularly in snowmobiles?
 

bouncer

Member
Failing voltage regulators seem to be such a common problem with sleds, but strangely not so with automobiles.

Voltage regulators seem to be rather uncomplicated gadgets. Are there any automotive or "'lectrical injuneers" here that can "splain" what's so problematic about voltage regulators, particularly in snowmobiles?

Voltage regulators convert AC current to DC current. This generates heat. An automotive regulator is built into the alternator which is fan cooled thus reducing the heat. Snowmobile regulators are mounted separately and not directly cooled. Ad a ton of vibration and you get a recipe for early failure.
 

indy_500

Well-known member
i've replaced voltage regulators on the last 2 sled's i've had, and i probably should've replaced it on the sled before the last 2, i just don't get why they dont' make them "better" or come out with a "better version"
 

jimfsr

New member
Just for clarification, the voltage regulator only regulates the AC power from the generator coil to 12-13.5 volts. The rectifier converts AC to DC. Some are combined units on sleds with a battery. If you don't have a battery system in the sled, you wouldn't need a rectifier. (unless you are installing a 12v. DC acc. like a GPS) All the systems on a sled will run ac or dc (lights, heated shields, etc.)
 

polarisrider1

New member
Most the problems mentioned with voltage regulators are with the Polaris model yrs. 2002-2003. Other yrs. fail too but for those 2 yrs. Polaris took "Low" bid and got junk. Those regulators were around $12-$14 to buy retail. They are much more expensive on the newer efi and cfi sleds. Polaris figured it out after warrenty work in the big numbers for Hot grips and/or lights burning out. It seemed that the 550 fans of 2002 were the worse for this. Polaris returned to there original vendor that did the late 90's regulators and the problem went away when the replacements were installed.
 

fishs_summit

New member
I'd say it happens to all makes. Just had it replaced on a 06 renegade.Dealer said it failed from road salt? All I know is it doesn't run without one.
 

bouncer

Member
Just for clarification, the voltage regulator only regulates the AC power from the generator coil to 12-13.5 volts. The rectifier converts AC to DC. Some are combined units on sleds with a battery. If you don't have a battery system in the sled, you wouldn't need a rectifier. (unless you are installing a 12v. DC acc. like a GPS) All the systems on a sled will run ac or dc (lights, heated shields, etc.)

Jim,
I think you meant a regulator only regulates DC power from a generator which is true.

An alternator needs a rectifier/regulator (one unit) to convert AC to DC then maintain 12 to 14 volts DC.

All the regulators on sleds are rectifier/regulators which I should have mentioned in my previous post but are only called regulators now a days because the use of generators in the industry for autos or power sports are long gone.

The one thing I am not clear on is quote; If you don't have a battery system in the sled, you wouldn't need a rectifier.

Did you mean if the sled has no lighting??? Because all sleds are wired 12 DC. And all alternators produce AC voltage. Pumping AC voltage through a sleds wiring system could be a shocking experience. But I have been wrong before and never too old to learn!
 

jimfsr

New member
Thanks for the reply, lets see if I can explain this better... The stator produces AC voltage only, The regulator regulates that to 12-13.5 volts, but still AC current. The rectifier is needed to convert the voltage to DC. The battery needs to have DC voltage to charge it, if you dont have a battery to charge, you wouln't need the DC voltage (exept for DC acc., like a GPS). True that most new sleds have a regulator/rectifier unit in them, reason being commonality among units. They have E-start available for most models now, so they just put in the system from the factory. On older sleds, most were not rectified to DC, and if e-start were added, a rectifier would too. look through a catalog of replacement regulators for older sleds, there is a different unit required for sleds w/ a battery, than for those without. If you notice, reguulators only have 1 or 2 wires, one for power in, another to ground, or it may be grounded through the mount(body). All the regulator does is dump any extra voltage beyond 13.5 in to ground(frame). A rectifier usually has 3 or4 wires, AC in, ground to frame, DC+ out and DC- out(which may also be to the frame). The circuts on a snowmobile like lights,the heated shield output, and grips, dont care if they are AC or DC, they will work on either polarity. You wont get a shock from the AC on a sled, there just is not enough voltage there to hurt you. A spark plug fires at about 30-40,000 volts, and anybody thats been around engines has gotten a poke from one and lived to tell. The amperage is what hurts!

Anybody want to chime in? This is kind of fun, makes me think back to my aircraft mechanic training days, good exercise for the old brain.
 

indy_500

Well-known member
Most the problems mentioned with voltage regulators are with the Polaris model yrs. 2002-2003. Other yrs. fail too but for those 2 yrs. Polaris took "Low" bid and got junk. Those regulators were around $12-$14 to buy retail. They are much more expensive on the newer efi and cfi sleds. Polaris figured it out after warrenty work in the big numbers for Hot grips and/or lights burning out. It seemed that the 550 fans of 2002 were the worse for this. Polaris returned to there original vendor that did the late 90's regulators and the problem went away when the replacements were installed.

i got 3 99's (late 90's as u said) and all 3 of them needed a new voltage regulator
 
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