I had an FXR Suit, The jacket had a rear arm to arm zipper, pit zipper vents, and a removable liner, early starts with the liner, zip it out later, vent all day then put it on the way home. Worked very well. Rode in a rainstorm one time and was dry as a bone. Was 329.00 in 2002 Worth every penny, and still use it. The right gear is the start of a great day, and a good end to one. I think the bibs ran 275.00. Seems like alot of money, but can you really spend to much for something that works?