Good question but good luck finding Yamaha gear on sale. Yamaha cut back outerwear gear 2 years ago & just have not contracted to make more. I told Kip & Chad riding up to buy Yammy turtleneck both said have not made any in 2 years only aftermarket stuff. You would have to run into Ma & Pa that went out of biz & was sitting on 3-4 year old Yamaha stuff. Rode my Attak with purple doo stuff then went basic black Arctivia 4 in 1 still have doo black bibs with probably 20,000 miles still AOK. Everytime I touch a pair of new bibs my wife gives me that look. She is right tho since I bought Poo gear, Cat gear, 2 sets of Doo gear & now Arctivia. Just no used market for the old stuff. Wish there was.