I purchased a 2008 Vector with 107 miles. My first non Arctic Cat since 1976. So here is the problem. The hyfax seem to wear quickly. I put a new set on and rode in good snow and trails and 400 miles later the are 1/2 shot. The leading edge or front are perfect but the flat surface of the rails are in bad shape. Do I have the track too loose or is this a Yamaha issue. I do see they have a carbon fiber set of hyfax availabe that they claim 5000 miles of wear. Never had this problem with cats. All comments welcome. Thanks.
Yamaha Hyfax Wear Problem
- Thread starter lotoftoys
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On all of the old pro-action Yamahas, the trick was to run your track as loose as possible without ratcheting. There are other tricks to "season" your hyfax, drill holes in them, etc. Basically, I just plan on putting new ones on every year. Whatever you do, stick with OEM Yamaha, or you will have a heck of a time getting them on and off.
As whitedust said let it ride and you will be amazed how it stops wearing. And of course run track loose. Put ice scratchers on to keep machine cooler and keep snow in there also. I change slides every year as maintenance but have never had a problem. Close to 2200 mile on a set this season.
Thanks for all the replies. I will try to loosen the track. My thought was it may be too loose as most wear is at the rear and the radius is untouched.The dupont slides may be good with the carbon fiber strips but will it damage the clips? I was riding in Vilas county with some (minimal) road riding. Many times I was the first sled across a fresh groomed trail that was packed pretty tight. I will keep an eye on it for the next couple rides. One more ? On the bottom of the hyfax the is a wider section ; is this the tell tale for time to change or is it just wider for the rails in that area? Thanks again.
agriffinjd
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I have about 3500-4000 miles on my dupont slides. No damage to the track clips.
Going on 2500 miles on dupont slides this year but still wear down & stop not sure where you got the idea duponts would wear out clips? Still think you are freaking trying to apply cat wear to Yamaha wear just not the same watch as wear stops at this point.....don't do anyting hyfax has adjusted to where your track has been set unless sloppy loose you are aok. Just keep an eye on it them suddenly you will forget about it & change once a year unless running duponts change point is 5000 miles maybe more.
mezz
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Here is a little something many fail to do with a fresh set of hyfax, & that is tempering them. Ride on a hard pack trail for a few miles then pull off into the deeper snow & come to a rolling stop & sit there for a few minutes. The ride on the hard pack heats the hyfax up, the rolling stop in the deeper snow will cool them down & harden the surface of the hyfax thereby tempering them. I don't ride a Yamaha, but, I can put on over 3,000 miles on a set & they will show very minimal wear.-Mezz
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Pioneer used to make a kit that would drop the 4 idler wheels about 3/8 of an inch. I bought it for my Apex. Hifax would last forever then but top speed dropped by 5 mph. As has been stated - if you are running on good snow the hifax will wear quickly down to a certain point and then stay that way for 1000's of miles. Nothing to worry about. Just the way it is.
You don't have studs under hyfax rails do you? If you do all bets are off can't help you with that. To me with only 107 miles on sled track needs to strech so keep an eye on that. Entire sled needs to break in change oil & filter at 500 miles then good for another 3000 miles to change oil.
eagle1
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When I had to replace wheels I just used Polaris. Think there 135mm vs. 130mm plus have replaceable bearings.
Maybe I am too nervous. I have heard what Mezz has said about tempering also. I looked at the original set I removed earlier and you guys are right; there was plenty left. Like I said I have a lot of Yamaha to learn about. I may try a set of the graphite Duponts for giggles next time. Regardless I am lovin' the sled. Thanks.
srt20
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The windows and clips are under the hyfax. Be pretty difficult to put studs there.
But I agree with the rest. When I had a Yamaha, the slides worn scary fast for a bit, then almost stopped wearing.
groomerdriver
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Guys - read what the OP originally posted (Many times I was the first sled across a fresh groomed trail that was packed pretty tight.. Yami hyfax typically wear quickly on the front curve then settle down like many of you said. His wear is on the flat section of the rails. Based on a later post he says he rode on groomed and setup, hard pack trails. This is most likely indicative of not enough lubrication. If you want to play it safe and get ice scratchers installed. Like many here have said....Yamaha track tension specs are way too tight but that doesn't sound like an issue for you.
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Groomer makes a point. Last year we were on fresh trails with lots of snow but we were all burning hifax. Easy enough to smell plus sleds don't coast and when you stop a little glueing was going on. The temps were about 27 degrees and the trail was hard. No dust was coming up. Two of us were studded but it didn't help. Sometimes the studs will bust up the surface a little enough for lube but not that day. When the temps rose just a little the condition went away and all was fine. So, yes in these conditions ice scratchers would have been the way to go. Not just a yami issue. Two Pols having the same problem that day. Maybe a higher grade of hifax would have helped. I don't know. No experience with that. OEM hifax cheap and easy to put on. Not that big of a deal.