American Flag the the right to Display it !!! this story got me boling !!!

[ezra]

. The real lesson here is that every time you sign your name you are trading freedom for some benefit. This guy like a little 2 year old brat, he wants all the good that comes along with living in the association, but not the bad.

what are the good parts of living in wanna be neighborhood with a bunch of housewives and low to lower mid management guys making and enforcing rules on your life because it makes them feel important?really what is the Benny you don't have to look at a ladder an the side of some guys garage or see his trailer parked in the street for more than 18 hrs SHOOT ME NOW.you could not pay me to live in some tract home sub par development.at least in my parts most of the association deals don't exists in high end living just that 250 to 450k rotland type development.and in this foreclosure market if buying from a bank and you have your real estate lawyer with at closing amendments can be made and will be made to those pesky rules that no one likes except the guy enforcing them who has no control over any other aspect of his life

 

[vx700xtc]

what are the good parts of living in wanna be neighborhood with a bunch of housewives and low to lower mid management guys making and enforcing rules on your life because it makes them feel important?really what is the benny you don't have to look at a ladder an the side of some guys garage or see his trailer parked in the street for more than 18 hrs shoot me now.you could not pay me to live in some tract home sub par development.at least in my parts most of the association deals don't exists in high end living just that 250 to 450k rotland type development.and in this foreclosure market if buying from a bank and you have your real estate lawyer with at closing amendments can be made and will be made to those pesky rules that no one likes except the guy enforcing them who has no control over any other aspect of his life

darn straight!

 

[brooks]

darn straight!

what are the good parts of living in wanna be neighborhood with a bunch of housewives and low to lower mid management guys making and enforcing rules on your life because it makes them feel important?really what is the Benny you don't have to look at a ladder an the side of some guys garage or see his trailer parked in the street for more than 18 hrs SHOOT ME NOW.you could not pay me to live in some tract home sub par development.at least in my parts most of the association deals don't exists in high end living just that 250 to 450k rotland type development.and in this foreclosure market if buying from a bank and you have your real estate lawyer with at closing amendments can be made and will be made to those pesky rules that no one likes except the guy enforcing them who has no control over any other aspect of his life

I agree, the negatives of an association far, far exceed the positives. The benefits are that you bear no responsibilities in an association, not accepting responsibility is a popular trend in this day and age.

 

[nic]

Yup- the guy is ignoring the clearly written rules and trying to get patriotic Americans to agree with him. In the end, he is wrong. He can fly the flag with great pride, from a pole on the front of his house. He cannot construct a 14 foot flagpole. The flag is not the issue. He's being very lawyer-ly (sorry lawyers, you know I love ya) and trying to twist it around to something it's not- for his benefit. But he's wrong. I'm guessing he's hoping that enough 'exposure' (news articles, etc) will help tip the scales in his favor and the HOA will back down b/c they won't want to look un-patriotic. But, he's wrong. Plain and simple.
As far as HOAs- I would never want to live in one of those neighborhoods where all of the houses are one of 5 variations of each others. Each with a little sappling in the yard that was planted the year the subdivision was built. HOWEVER- I somehow happen to get hellish neighbors, so there are certainly positives. My old house- the neighbor rented the house out. The renter that lived there before I moved out had piles of crap in his driveway. Just random junk. It got so bad, he finally bought one of those plastic, temporary, shelter-type things to put over it. A year later, added a 2nd one b/c the crap had multiplied in the first shelter. The paint on the sides of the house was also peeling off, and his front window was broken. Living next door to the neighborhood eyesore sucked. If there was an HOA, that wouldn't have been allowed. I think the negatives outweigh the positives and would never live where there was one, but I would definitely not say that there are NO benefits to an HOA.
Just because we like our adventures (snowmobiling, ATVing, camping, boating, etc) doesn't mean everyone else does. So if you're one of those people who doesn't want the neighbor to park his POS camper in his driveway year round, you would think HOAs are the bomb.

 

[thunderstruck88]

MACEDONIA, Ohio - The Summit County homeowners association that was trying to force a veteran to take down his flagpole because it violated HOA rules has dropped its fight.

Gerry Patronite, the attorney representing 77-year-old U.S. Army veteran Fred Quigley, said he was informed via a hand-delivered letter Thursday evening that Quigley would be allowed to keep his flagpole.

Quigley lives in the Villas at Taramina in Macedonia. Joseph Migliorini, a representative from the association, sent Quigley an order to remove the flagpole said last week he would take Quigley to court if he did not remove his flagpole.

Patronite argued that Ohio state law prohibits restrictions on flying the American flag on personal property.

The story gained national attention after it was posted on newsnet5.com and aired on NewsChannel5. Members of the Nordonia Hills American Legion Post #801 held a protest at Quigley’s flagpole , raising the American flag against HOA rules.

"If they can dictate to me that I cannot fly an American flag in America, then, to me, the country is lost," Quigley said last week.

 

[thunderstruck88]

Ohio State Law 5301.072 states homeowners' associations are not allowed to prohibit flagpoles.

The law states, "No rule, regulation, bylaw... or agreement of a homeowners, neighborhood, civic, or other association shall prohibit or be construed to prohibit the placement on any property of a flagpole that is to be used for the purpose of displaying... the flag of the United States."

 

[mjkaliszak]

250 - 450 rotoland style development. I guess I live in 1 of those. Could I have bought in a 450-750 ? Yes. But either way neighbors can be sticky & pricky in each. We were the 3rd house in here, but we were preparred. Bought big trees & expensive landscaping. Some people spent all their money just to buy the house, we did not we went smaller so we could afford all the travel youth sports, snowmobiles, jet ski'd, 4 wheelers, 3 cars ect... It's funny after about another 10 houses were built someone complained about my snowmobile trailer , it was parked outside for 2 weeks. Then it was the x-mas lights were a problem, we didn't take them down until april ( more complaints ). It all seemed to quiet down after I made my own home-made firework. Now they leave me alone. Here is my flagpole, it's a 30ft-er. It has no flag, my protest statement to the current ruling party.

 

[thunderstruck88]

just put up a state flag or a college flag that you support thats what I would do and I wished like all get out people wold just people alone respect is a word we all need to learn more of !!!!!!!! and you got some very big trees wow have a great day MJ

 

[frnash]

Let the war begin...

Now that the right to install a flagpole (not just to fly the flag) is settled, I can see it now:

1. Mr. big-sh!t-strutting-peacock (mine is bigger than yours) Lieutenant Colonel can keep his 14 foot flagpole.
2. A neighbor erects a 16 foot flagpole (Hah, mine is bigger than yours!).
3. Then another erects an 18 foot flagpole (Hah, mine is bigger than both of yours).
4. etc. etc.

It's just this sort of thing that the no flagpole rule was intended to prevent.
(Just kidding, but only slightly. )

 

[dcsnomo]

http://youtu.be/s9qsdz7gMlY

Nicely played, T-Struck, with the last minute "pull the obscure law outta yer butt" move!

 

[vx700xtc]

Now that the right to install a flagpole (not just to fly the flag) is settled, I can see it now:

1. Mr. big-sh!t-strutting-peacock (mine is bigger than yours) Lieutenant Colonel can keep his 14 foot flagpole.
2. A neighbor erects a 16 foot flagpole (Hah, mine is bigger than yours!).
3. Then another erects an 18 foot flagpole (Hah, mine is bigger than both of yours).
4. etc. etc.

It's just this sort of thing that the no flagpole rule was intended to prevent.
(Just kidding, but only slightly. )

Hah!, mine is a 20 footer!