Polaris FST questions

Hoosier

Well-known member
What kind of mileage do these things get?

How much turbo lag?

Did they make a switchback with an FST? If so, with a decent track, how would that do off trail compared to say a comparable 600? Or is it just way too heavy for off trail use?

Just curious about this engine....
 

indy_500

Well-known member
It is the most underrated motor Polaris has ever made. They claim 140 hp, and from what I read all over the internet, it's probably the one sled manufactured that has more hp than what they claim. They did make it in a switchback. It'd probably do good enough to ride some logging roads with a few feet of snow, but I wouldn't go wandering off into the woods. It is quite a heavy sled, and it's sad to see Polaris won't put this motor into the rush chassis.
 

whitedust

Well-known member
mspease has a good handle on FST performance over the years & put big miles on his before he bought an Adventure. He knows the quirks & upgrades & what you should exspect.
Poo did make an FST Switchback & Dragon as well. Very heavy for off trail where light weight is necessary for top performance. As Indy says 4s 136 tracks ok for fire roads but in really deep stuff my Yam Attak trenches just too heavy & sled weight about the same as FST.
 

Sno-Bandit Gary

New member
You did not mention if you were looking at new or used. Some of the earlier models had some issues with wire and hose routing causing some problems with electrical issues. There were several factory updates for the earlier ones so if you buy used make sure it is up to date. I would say from 2010 on they have it all worked out. I have a 2010 with about 4200 miles on it. I do not notice any turbo lag..grab and handful and hang on. It is a heavy machine so I would not try going anywhere too deep. Besides getting buried they are sooo heavy to dig out. I trail ride with mine and on the occational fire lane. I really enjoy mine... For more tech advise go to Polaris Files.com there is a forum dedicated to FST's. Those guys eat and breath this stuff.
 

anonomoose

New member
Actually, the FST is a great sled and only suffers because, Polaris did such a poor job of getting that sled ready for prime time. Once the fixes got done, it was a good all around machine.

Unlike the early CATs, there was zero turbo lag. Mileage was right around 15 give or take depending upon off trail or trail work.

Polaris designed the switchback sleds with 144 track which is about minimum in my opinion for an off trail unit. The rails are tipped up so that on harder surfaces, it acted more like a 130 or 136 which prevented some of the push longer track sleds exhibit in the corners on trail use.

I had a pair of these and still own one.

Polaris skis' suck...plain and simple. If you get one, figure on changing out the skis, and the spindles as they had wrong configurations in the early models. Also the 1.25 inch track is just short of bad for off trail use. I put a 2 inch track on there and geared the sled down (which was another issue with the early versions if you intend to use it off trail at all) and the sled wakes up lets the belts live a longer life and still goes like a rocket-ship with better mileage, while probably suffering on top end....so you won't be able to go 118 mph. (I have never opened the sled up to see.....)

The sled is about 85 pounds heavier than the 600 which also had marginal power for off trail. While the sled is heavy... the power is key to staying out of trouble so it is a mixed bag....and despite what others say who, no doubt have never taken one out and put it thru it's paces, ALL sleds are too heavy when you stick them. Wider skis are key to keeping these beasts noses up, and I have had mine in 4 feet of untracked powder and she bulldozes along just fine. The gauges are best in the industry with thumb controls on the bars where they belong rather than having to take your hand off to push a button while the sled is bouncing and carving up on the unit itself. Hand warms work great, brakes superb, suspension puts most others to shame....at least on the switcher. Unlike the yamaha that has exhaust noise, the Polaris is quiet exiting into the snow where most sleds put exhaust.

It has NEVER overheated....not even close, and most guys changed out the heavy muffler and took out the radiator bringing the weight down almost to 2 stroke range.
Unfortunately after 3 years, Polaris shortened the sled to 136 (the same year that Yamaha extended theirs out to 144) and coupled the suspension which took the best attributes of the off trailer away. Look for a 2006-8 model if you want a sled that does far better off trail.

Personally if you are going to go turbo, I would look at a 2010 or later model TZ-1, get the factory extension kit and longer lug track, extend the factory 144 to the 151, put some wider skis on the front and find out what crazy fast is....I owned one of those too. It ran smoother, got the same gas mileage as the FST and even tho it was way more machine than the FST, it was put together much better. (You can find one of these in the EXT version which comes stock with 1.3 inch and 144 track.)

While there is no doubt that lighter and powerful 2 stroke sleds have the advantage in pure off trail work, a skilled off trail rider on a turbo can go anywhere the others care to go, which is why lots of guys who could care less what the costs are, use them out west in 10 feet of snow. Power is the ultimate savior where a wimpy motor can't do it.

Still the early years switchback is a good cheap entry into turbo world, and a great balance of power to sled, if you put the above mods into it, you will not be able to wipe the smile off your face when you get into the powder to play with it. Others will disagree with me, but I would never ever use a sled with less than 2 inch lugs unless I never intended to go off trail at all. The difference is night and day off trail, and the on trail use is still very respectable in all but ice conditions....where studs will be the only moving machinery.

Warning tho....once you go turbo, there is NO going back...unless you turn 85...and need crutches.
 

Hoosier

Well-known member
You did not mention if you were looking at new or used.

I'm not really looking right now, just trying to learn a little about the sleds out there. I have a Fusion 600, which I love riding, but I don't care about brands at all. Not sure why, but I've never had an interest in Ski-doo, but I'd consider any of the rest (not a bash on Ski-doo, I realize they are far and away #1 in sales, so they must be doing something right).

I think I have a problem, because one day I want to buy a mountain sled and head West, the next day I want to buy a 4 stroke and ride all throughout Ontario and Quebec, and other days I daydream of mixing it up where we normally ride in Northern Wisconsin and the UP. Right now my riding time and money is limited as I have a young family, but it's fun to look forward to riding anyway. Back to the FST, it interests me because I thought it might be a good sled to ride around the UP and also take it up to Canada every so often. Just not sure if it would work for bouncing around through the trees...
 

Hoosier

Well-known member
Personally if you are going to go turbo, I would look at a 2010 or later model TZ-1, get the factory extension kit and longer lug track, extend the factory 144 to the 151, put some wider skis on the front and find out what crazy fast is....I owned one of those too. It ran smoother, got the same gas mileage as the FST and even tho it was way more machine than the FST, it was put together much better. (You can find one of these in the EXT version which comes stock with 1.3 inch and 144 track.)

Why do you say 2010 or later TZ-1, did they do some revisions to that sled (I'm not familiar with the Cats as much).
 
fst

we have 4 in our group form mild to wild we all love them all ,Great power on or off the trail .They are a lil heavy but power makes up for it... my ,02
 

anonomoose

New member
Why do you say 2010 or later TZ-1, did they do some revisions to that sled (I'm not familiar with the Cats as much).

I forget what the issues were, but early models had some. All but the weak link arm (recall) was fixed by 2010 models.

Had both at the same time, and the Cat was a much better all around sled. Balance of power was better on the FST....power without excess....but some will argue, there is no such thing.

Anyone who has one, or who has ridden a turbo knows exactly what I am talking about. They are ahead of their time.
 
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Deleted member 10829

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I always got about 14 mpg and I rode it pretty hard. I have 11,700 miles on it now and am selling it as I have an Adventure on order. The only reason I didn't go 4 stroke again is because I wanted a new chassis after being in the IQ for 6 seasons. I hope to go back to a 4 stroke in the Rush chassis in a couple of years! If the updates are done, the sleds are very good. Not much more to add than what has been said above.
 
I always got about 14 mpg and I rode it pretty hard. I have 11,700 miles on it now and am selling it as I have an Adventure on order. The only reason I didn't go 4 stroke again is because I wanted a new chassis after being in the IQ for 6 seasons. I hope to go back to a 4 stroke in the Rush chassis in a couple of years! If the updates are done, the sleds are very good. Not much more to add than what has been said above.

+1
 

echohunter

New member
I think I have a problem, because one day I want to buy a mountain sled and head West.



Do this once and you'll never recover from it. .. .for myself anyway, all other riding I do pales by a factor of about 7000 in comparison to being out there in Colorado or Wyoming or Montana and experiencing the absolute splendor of the high country!! . .Nothing on earth like it!!!!
 

Hoosier

Well-known member
Do this once and you'll never recover from it. .. .for myself anyway, all other riding I do pales by a factor of about 7000 in comparison to being out there in Colorado or Wyoming or Montana and experiencing the absolute splendor of the high country!! . .Nothing on earth like it!!!!

I've been to the Togwotee area twice, and yeah, that's the riding I think about when I'm falling asleep at night. But I still love the thrills and adventure of trail riding - sometimes hitting it hard turn to turn and sometimes just cruising along, finding ungroomed forest roads or off-trail spots to play on, taking saddlebagging trips, riding new trails and finding new spots to stop and grab some food and drinks at the end of the day, riding long hours and well after dark sometimes, etc. I have a hard time really comparing the two (trail vs mountain), but one thing I wouldn't miss if I didn't trail ride - the constant concern leading up to a trip whether there will be good snow conditions and how busy the trails are. Never thought much about conditions when riding near Togwotee! Even if it gets busy, you don't have to go too far to find some untracked powder to play in...never have to ride in snirt is nice also.
 
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