Snowmobilers drinking while sledding - what do you do

mride460

New member
Great to hear there are still some selfless people out there willing to do the right thing. I've towed drunk guys back to their cabins a time or two over the years and just hope someone's there to help me out if I happen to lose track and tie one on before I park the sled for the night. My group will have a couple drinks throughout a long day of riding but we keep the real drinking for the bar within walking distance of the motel.
 

xsledder

Active member
Wow! Now that I know there is that much heat on the trails, I'm more worried about being shot than getting hit by a drunk. At least with sled against sled the physics are a little more equal; but when a Dirty Harry can have the drop on me without me knowing it, there's no chance.

The way a few people on this site has been going postal with their comments, it wouldn't surprise me if there is a shooting on the trails this year.
 
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lenny

Guest
I don't think there is anything to worry about. The odds of a tree falling on ya is probably greater
 

yamahauler

Active member
Tahoe & Adams:

Anti-gun people or people that think people with CCW's just are waiting to take someone out knows nothing about the license or the statistics behind those that have a license. Like state, we aren't vigilantes, just protecting ourselves & family if needed. I hope I never have to do anything with it.
 
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Tahoe & Adams:

Anti-gun people or people that think people with CCW's just are waiting to take someone out knows nothing about the license or the statistics behind those that have a license. Like state, we aren't vigilantes, just protecting ourselves & family if needed. I hope I never have to do anything with it.

If you think that folks with CCW's are the only ones that carry you are greatly mistaken. I know of quite a few who have never taken the course either because they don't qualify or don't care. They always have something with them. These are the ones to have a little fear for. Especially when they get full. I used to know a DNR officer that never carried a gun in his whole career. Probably not even legal now. Anyway he said that the best way to increase the likelihood of getting shot was to have a gun in the first place. He never got shot.
 

russholio

Well-known member
Tahoe & Adams:

Anti-gun people or people that think people with CCW's just are waiting to take someone out knows nothing about the license or the statistics behind those that have a license. Like state, we aren't vigilantes, just protecting ourselves & family if needed. I hope I never have to do anything with it.

X2. Sounds like they actually believe the BS that anti-gunners and many politicians feed them, and that's even more scary than somebody legally packing heat!
 

Skylar

Super Moderator
Staff member
Anonomoose - your post reminds me of this story. I'm sure many people have seen this story and it really puts things into perspective.

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/401-general-forum/560386-just-like-you-sad-but-true.html

I witnessed an act of kindness this past weekend that makes me think doing something or at least trying is always the right thing to do. We were out at a bar and there was a guy obviously too drunk to ride his sled home. A few of us saw this and talked about what to do but one guy in the crowd reacted instantly to the situation. He approached the guy and made sure his assumptions were right. He then offered to drive him home and take his sled back to where he was staying. His friends were a bit leery at first but realized this guy was trying to help their friend and were grateful. He then gathered a few others and loaded the guys sled into the back of his truck and drove out of his way to drive the guy to where he was staying. I don't care if I should mind my own business or not and think this was the right thing to do. It might have ended up being my business if he killed someone I know on his way home.

And the person who gave that guy a lift, is a JD member, yooperrev. Tim, you are class act!
 

yamahauler

Active member
Grub: I am quite confused by your comments in regard to what I wrote, they make no sense in regards to what I was referring to. I wrote specifically about CCW, not anyone who carries a gun whether they have a CCW permit or not. I am not a moron to think that people who don't have a CCW permit don't carries guns. The fact would be the most that do without the permit may be what I would call thugs. Don't take it out of context that I mean everyone that doesn't have a permit and carry is a thug, I said most.
 
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qber

New member
A drunk sledder with an attitude, plus packing a gun- doesn't make for a real good day, but it does elevate the image of snowmobilers. I'll go the whole way- an 88mm antitank gun fitted with skis behind my sled.
 

rsvectordude

New member
Look around at the bars while sledding! There's not alot of people drinking pops that's fore sure! Give them directions and be on your way! And as far as carrying on a sled I guess some people watch too much TV! I don't know a single Yooper that would carry a gun while sledding unless it was to a hunting spot! I guess when people are raised in the city they have a different outlook on life! And no the wolves aren't going to track you down and eat ya either.
 

russholio

Well-known member
Look around at the bars while sledding! There's not alot of people drinking pops that's fore sure! Give them directions and be on your way! And as far as carrying on a sled I guess some people watch too much TV! I don't know a single Yooper that would carry a gun while sledding unless it was to a hunting spot! I guess when people are raised in the city they have a different outlook on life! And no the wolves aren't going to track you down and eat ya either.

Count me among those who stick to pop in the bars while riding. Or maybe the occasional iced tea (no, not the Long Island variety).

I've had a CPL for 10 years. I had to take a class, get fingerprinted, and pay the county $105. No problem, because I want to be able to protect my family should the need arise (hopefully, that would be never). Sometimes I carry, sometimes I don't. I haven't (yet) while sledding because 1) I don't yet have a way to safely and comfortably carry, and 2) we often stop for lunch at bars; it's illegal to carry there and I'm not about to leave my weapon in my tunnel bag while we're inside.

I'm not a cop and don't want to be one -- they get paid way too little for the crap they have to put up with. I'm not interested in meting out justice to the Ricky Racers, drunk sledders, and trespassers of the world. If I were carrying while riding and happened to meet some of the aforementioned, they'd be in no more danger from me than if I weren't carrying. I AM, however, interested in protecting my family, be it from 2-legged or 4-legged threats. Yeah, I know, maybe the perceived threat from 4-legged creatures is way over-exaggerated -- but as others have stated, I'd rather have a means of protection and not need it than not have it and wish I had.

Last year (around this time) the wife and I were honeymooning in the Keweenaw. At home, less than 1/2 a mile away on our street, a young man was killed in a Craig's List deal gone bad. Seems as though he advertised that he was looking for a cell phone. Somebody responded to his ad, and he agreed to buy the phone. When the baddies showed up to "deliver" the phone, he came out to meet them and was promptly killed -- for the $80 or $90 he had on him to pay for said phone.

Remember the Kuenzi brothers of deer slaughtering fame? I know I'd prefer to never meet them on the trails, but I'd also prefer that I be armed if I did. Isolated incident? Yeah, probably...or maybe....but it's a sick world in which we live, so I don't think we ever really know who's out there.

So some of you probably think that I'm just paranoid, and that's okay. We all have different cultural and social upbringings. But please remember, not all of us are fortunate enough to live in the Yoop or the Northwoods, or any other place where bad things don't happen on a regular basis.
 
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