What is the solution????????? We had severe visor icing on the trail in the UP Friday 10 AM - about 1PM gave up & had lunch & after lunch the condition had cleared the area & all was well. At times we were following the tail lights of the mothership in this case a Venture GT with a huge windshield so venturenorth could duck behind that & avoid hat icing. dfattak & I have indentical Apex XTXs & I had brp mod & he has bvs hat. dfattak has a scraper built into his gloves & plugged in his heated shield neither helped. We thawed hats out on rear exhausts but soon had icing again. Finally we both resorted to just scraping visors with our fingernails nothing else worked & the tail lights of the mothership were long gone. I was thinking of stopping & peeing on the visor to clear it but didn't need the amber lens. So what is the solution when icing happens & we will buy it?? Otherwise than the 3 hours of icing it was a stellar day on the trails.