wisyooper1
Member
We should not forget that we are NOT in Canada....their rules are their rules. I don't like their socialized health system either.....we are in the good 'ole US of A. Don't bring a provincial police state here.....
Ban the Can
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We should not forget that we are NOT in Canada....their rules are their rules. I don't like their socialized health system either.....we are in the good 'ole US of A. Don't bring a provincial police state here.....
wisyooper1
Member
Actually, I stated that "loud pipes save lives" not "loud cans....". The refence was to Harleys not snowmobiles. I highly doubt the snowmobiles need to worry about a car cutting them off. As I mentioned, I am a proponent of safety and respect for others. My belief is that it is the constant blipping of the throttle, on and off, from no throttle to full throttle, that is causing the annoyance.....I don't ride like that but some do....and an aftermarket can will respond to throttle blipping differently than stock.
Well enough for me - nice here in Green Bay - think I will go fire up the Hog.....and maybe the Stihl chainsaw....but the chainsaw is loud too!! Crap!! lol
mezz
Well-known member
BBB, I couldn't agree with you more. To clarify my early response in this thread, the obnoxiously loud & constant burping the throttle with that obnoxiously loud can is disturbing to say the least. Some have apparently taken it as all cans should be banned, that is not the case, nor did I think that was your position. If it takes enforcement of this for a while, then so be it, the message will be received as well as the fine that goes with it. As far as business owners making a stand, they all should, they are in communities that serve more than the snowmobilers. Yes, the few that are the violators pale in comparison to the responsible & respectful operators. The message needs to be loud & clear, be responsible or stay the **** out. BRRRRRAPPPPP on that!-Mezz
snowdance
Member
Not to get to far off subject, but I have a Motorcycle with aftermarket pipes. Which I feel are not obnoxious and I use common sense and respect as I do on my snowmobile. I just don't buy into the whole loud pipes save lives thing on motorcycles. The majority of the sound is behind you. The car to worry about is usually ahead of you and going to pull out in front of you. Yes, I guess if you're riding next to someone you may get their attention so they don't pull into your lane. Shouldn't be in their blind spot in the first place. JMO
So why is it that a harley has to constantley be reving the engine at start up , at stop signs at any time they see fit ??? Wont the piece of crap stay running !
snobuilder
Well-known member
All I can say is I hope you apply the same test to the hacked Harleys that roll through your town.......
noise is noise to the good folks of Bergland....or any other town.....
and I suspect the hacked Harleys that roll through there 8 months out of the year also piss people off.
keep us posted as to how many of them LOUD harley folks you also refuse service to.
ridindirty800
Active member
2 Things
1- STOP comparing snowmobiles to Harley's! Harley's may piss people off but there is nothing that can be done. They are not going to close a road because of them. But We are losing trails due to disrespectful people who don't know how to use a throttle when around towns and houses.
2- More I think about this thread is all the people on JD are for the most part the good folks of snowmobiling, the people who are the issue are not even going to read this thread or care about it. And like I said earlier the sad part is we will never stop them from being idiots.
1- STOP comparing snowmobiles to Harley's! Harley's may piss people off but there is nothing that can be done. They are not going to close a road because of them. But We are losing trails due to disrespectful people who don't know how to use a throttle when around towns and houses.
2- More I think about this thread is all the people on JD are for the most part the good folks of snowmobiling, the people who are the issue are not even going to read this thread or care about it. And like I said earlier the sad part is we will never stop them from being idiots.
snobuilder
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polarisrider1
New member
I take credit for "Ban the Can". The whole issue is noise. My slp can I had on my past sled was very quiet at idle but would poss of a Harley guy when I got on it. NOISE is the issue. Focus fellas.
snobuilder
Well-known member
SLP makes a very quiet lightweight silencer...I know that for a fact...it comes down to your choice of which one you buy.
They will quit making the loud ones when demand stops....
sweeperguy
Active member
It may not state specifically that its loud exhaust. But it is more likely loud exhaust, than carbide noise on the pavement.
eagle1
Well-known member
Wonder how many legal cans are still same db say 1,000 miles later? I mean by all the "legal" cans on here can't believe we even have a problem.
I would still say, "it's not the size (db) of your can but how you use it that matters"
scoot
Member
I applaud BBB. Right or wrong, at least he's trying something. If nothing else it will get people thinking about the problem. I'm reminded (was it '09?) when they finally banned smoking in public places up there. The smokers promised not to spend "their hard earned money" in places that enforced the law. Que sera sera. The families came back.
As for the HD issue, if law enforcement can't fix the problem, maybe refusing to serve a hungry rider a cheeseburger will. Hit em where it really hurts em, their stomachs.
As for the HD issue, if law enforcement can't fix the problem, maybe refusing to serve a hungry rider a cheeseburger will. Hit em where it really hurts em, their stomachs.
eagle1
Well-known member
X2!!!!!!!!
POLARISDAN
New member
yup i agree tom..and let me share this story as i was going to start a can thread when i got back..
sitting on vermillion the other night..late 2-3 ish..just sitting there enjoying the solitude and quiet of the night..i could hear them miles away..they finally got near and passed going into tower..then i had to listen to them for another 10 minutes..they had to be miles away by then..i never really had an opinion on this issue till that night..but omg..i cant imagine a land owner wanting to listen to these things all night long, or all day for that matter..cmon people..put yourselves in these landowner shoes..if u got loud cans..get fkn rid of them..
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lenny
Guest
dang right brother,,,I am gonna add in my website that "loud" cans are a problem and if you got em you may wanna find another place to stay . Everyone see what I said,,,"LOUD" not aftermarket. I have a house 20 ft from my rental and it time we stand united.. Rock on BBB!!!!!!!
Right. I also just found out there are other SAE tests.
All new snowmobiles are manufactured to pass two intense sound test procedures. They are certified by a third-party, internationally-recognized testing agency which administers the two rigid sound tests. First is the SAE J-1161, which is a steady-speed pass-by test, and the second is the SAE J-192, which tests the vehicle in the most extreme operation condition; wide-open throttle acceleration.
Most of the Can Manufacturers claim to pass SAE J-2567 stationary sound test, which does not sound quite the same as the above two tests.
I am wondering how many people believe they have a legal can based on the Can Manufacturer's literature for a lower RPM test (SAE J-2567), when in actual conditions they are really way over the legal allowable 88 db?
All new snowmobiles are manufactured to pass two intense sound test procedures. They are certified by a third-party, internationally-recognized testing agency which administers the two rigid sound tests. First is the SAE J-1161, which is a steady-speed pass-by test, and the second is the SAE J-192, which tests the vehicle in the most extreme operation condition; wide-open throttle acceleration.
Most of the Can Manufacturers claim to pass SAE J-2567 stationary sound test, which does not sound quite the same as the above two tests.
I am wondering how many people believe they have a legal can based on the Can Manufacturer's literature for a lower RPM test (SAE J-2567), when in actual conditions they are really way over the legal allowable 88 db?
Wonder how many legal cans are still same db say 1,000 miles later? I mean by all the "legal" cans on here can't believe we even have a problem.
I would still say, "it's not the size (db) of your can but how you use it that matters"
highhertel
Member
A call to the Federal Trade Commission might be in order here to get their claims checked out by a governing agency.
https://www.ftc.gov/
HH
sooo u were there ? could be a million reason always is and the owners always have more than 1 reason for getting sick of all the sleds running through there land.
from what I understand. from what I understand this guys land is some what close to the trail. well I for 1 would get sick of all the traffic if it was all 4strokes with extra mufflers .
any one with a trail on there land with in 1/4 of a mi from there home I am shocked the stay open more than a season or 2