Munising area DNR on the prowl

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snocrazy

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Mr. DNR was out busting folks in numbers yesterday around here. He is riding an APEX. He like to surprise you and pass you and then blocks trail in front of you. Not in a safe way either.
Just be careful. Make sure you have your stickers and sobriety in order if riding any of the main trails.
 
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geolith

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There was a DNR officer checking for trail passes on the Bill Nichols Trail north of the Mosquito again Saturday. I think they were there every weekend I went up.
 
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Snirtdawg

New member
geolith said:
There was a DNR officer checking for trail passes on the Bill Nichols Trail north of the Mosquito again Saturday. I think they were there every weekend I went up.
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Yes he took a long look at our sleds as well on Saturday as I waved hello to him. I had taken my sticker off a couple of weeks ago as I thought the season was over. I pulled it out of the trash and replaced it on the windshield. Glad I did! Riding was great, had to keep reminding myself it was mid April. had white knuckle driving both Friday night going up and Sunday morning coming home, go figure!
 
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geolith

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cooksend said:
Just can't figure out why anyone complains about patrol if they are doing nothing illegal...
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I wasn't complaining, "The dude abides". It seems like a good idea to let people know that it is important to comply with the law.

Snirtdawg, it was great riding Friday and Saturday. We probably passed each other, I sure didn't see many sleds.
 
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1fujifilm

Well-known member
snocrazy said:
Mr. DNR was out busting folks in numbers yesterday around here. He is riding an APEX. He like to surprise you and pass you and then blocks trail in front of you. Not in a safe way either.
Just be careful. Make sure you have your stickers and sobriety in order if riding any of the main trails.
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The DNR man I had been fined by about eight years ago was a royal freekin douche-bag!
He pulled me over on trail 3 in front of the DNR building as I was renting a piece of crap 2-stroke 488 fan (my sled sold late in the year) from Headwaters two miles away. The trail permit that goes on the windshield was missing and the DNR douche said it was my responsibility to make sure it was in place. I asked; "hey here is my rental paperwork, please call Headwaters and give them the fine", he said "no", here is a fine. It was clear to me this guy was out to fine anyone and everyone with zero leniency (consequently, I banned Watersmeet from my money for 4 years) he was just sick of snowmobilers it seemed.

Well, that was just the beginning of my problems as I decided to fight the ticket in court (Gogebic County court in Wakefield), being a resident of Green Bay, Wi I thought court would be reasonable place to discuss my ticket. WRONG; the court and Magistrate reminded me of Valkenvania from the movie Nothing but trouble. The magistrate was a complete tool "I later researched what it took to be a magistrate in MI overseeing vehicle court and he only needed to take a test after reading a book, worse yet to oversee civil matters he needed zero credentials". What a joke, no Attorney experience needed. I cringe for the people of the U.P. who are at the whim of "The Magistrate" that is interpreting the law by his own perception of a book or personal experience.

Anyway, if you get a ticket for anything in the U.P., pay the fine and save yourself some grief (or laughter depending on your mood).

Bear
 
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snobuilder

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1fujifilm said:
The DNR man I had been fined by about eight years ago was a royal freekin douche-bag!
He pulled me over on trail 3 in front of the DNR building as I was renting a piece of crap 2-stroke 488 fan (my sled sold late in the year) from Headwaters two miles away. The trail permit that goes on the windshield was missing and the DNR douche said it was my responsibility to make sure it was in place. I asked; "hey here is my rental paperwork, please call Headwaters and give them the fine", he said "no", here is a fine. It was clear to me this guy was out to fine anyone and everyone with zero leniency (consequently, I banned Watersmeet from my money for 4 years) he was just sick of snowmobilers it seemed.

Well, that was just the beginning of my problems as I decided to fight the ticket in court (Gogebic County court in Wakefield), being a resident of Green Bay, Wi I thought court would be reasonable place to discuss my ticket. WRONG; the court and Magistrate reminded me of Valkenvania from the movie Nothing but trouble. The magistrate was a complete tool "I later researched what it took to be a magistrate in MI overseeing vehicle court and he only needed to take a test after reading a book, worse yet to oversee civil matters he needed zero credentials". What a joke, no Attorney experience needed. I cringe for the people of the U.P. who are at the whim of "The Magistrate" that is interpreting the law by his own perception of a book or personal experience.

Anyway, if you get a ticket for anything in the U.P., pay the fine and save yourself some grief (or laughter depending on your mood).

Bear
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But you did nothing illegal so you have nothing too worry about!....LOL.
 
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Skylar

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1fujifilm said:
The DNR man I had been fined by about eight years ago was a royal freekin douche-bag!
He pulled me over on trail 3 in front of the DNR building as I was renting a piece of crap 2-stroke 488 fan (my sled sold late in the year) from Headwaters two miles away. The trail permit that goes on the windshield was missing and the DNR douche said it was my responsibility to make sure it was in place. I asked; "hey here is my rental paperwork, please call Headwaters and give them the fine", he said "no", here is a fine. It was clear to me this guy was out to fine anyone and everyone with zero leniency (consequently, I banned Watersmeet from my money for 4 years) he was just sick of snowmobilers it seemed.

Well, that was just the beginning of my problems as I decided to fight the ticket in court (Gogebic County court in Wakefield), being a resident of Green Bay, Wi I thought court would be reasonable place to discuss my ticket. WRONG; the court and Magistrate reminded me of Valkenvania from the movie Nothing but trouble. The magistrate was a complete tool "I later researched what it took to be a magistrate in MI overseeing vehicle court and he only needed to take a test after reading a book, worse yet to oversee civil matters he needed zero credentials". What a joke, no Attorney experience needed. I cringe for the people of the U.P. who are at the whim of "The Magistrate" that is interpreting the law by his own perception of a book or personal experience.

Anyway, if you get a ticket for anything in the U.P., pay the fine and save yourself some grief (or laughter depending on your mood).

Bear
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So you noticed the trail permit wasn't on it when you rented it, but did not question where it was? Also, did you ask Headwaters to pay the fine when you took the sled back?
 
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indy_500

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To continue some of the famous MI DNR pullover story's, I got a ticket 4 years ago for running a missing stop sign amidst the "mass city trap". Leaving town heading south on 3, I fly across a road and think to myself man they should really have a stop sign at that road, as it was a plowed forest road. Next road crossing (which does have a stop sign!) There the DNR officer sits. Just told me I missed the last stop sign and starts writing the ticket asap. I kindly asked what the name of the road was because there was only 1 road between here and town, and the stop sign is currently missing, which is why me and my buddy blew through it. He just ignored me, that's when I started fuming, yes, a 17 year old in a heated argument with a DNR officer... which ended with I'm writing the both of you 1 ticket which you can split, do you want to make it 2?!? Instead of carrying on our way south, before the officer took off I said were going back the way we came, to take another look at the missing stop sign, you can see it if you want. Ignored... I hate when people say screw the police, they just want your money. They are out there doing their job and making sure you abide by the law but to this day this DNR officer has left a sour taste in my mouth... the ticket was $130, $65 a person, and gas was $4 a gallon so the last thing 2 teenagers were going to do is skip school and drive 4 hrs to go fight a $130 ticket in court.
 
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old abe

Well-known member
indy_500 said:
To continue some of the famous MI DNR pullover story's, I got a ticket 4 years ago for running a missing stop sign amidst the "mass city trap". Leaving town heading south on 3, I fly across a road and think to myself man they should really have a stop sign at that road, as it was a plowed forest road. Next road crossing (which does have a stop sign!) There the DNR officer sits. Just told me I missed the last stop sign and starts writing the ticket asap. I kindly asked what the name of the road was because there was only 1 road between here and town, and the stop sign is currently missing, which is why me and my buddy blew through it. He just ignored me, that's when I started fuming, yes, a 17 year old in a heated argument with a DNR officer... which ended with I'm writing the both of you 1 ticket which you can split, do you want to make it 2?!? Instead of carrying on our way south, before the officer took off I said were going back the way we came, to take another look at the missing stop sign, you can see it if you want. Ignored... I hate when people say screw the police, they just want your money. They are out there doing their job and making sure you abide by the law but to this day this DNR officer has left a sour taste in my mouth... the ticket was $130, $65 a person, and gas was $4 a gallon so the last thing 2 teenagers were going to do is skip school and drive 4 hrs to go fight a $130 ticket in court.
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Where did the stop sign go? Did someone take it? Had it been plowed down? You could have politely ask him to go back with you the see where the "stop sign" was supposed to be? How did he know you blew through the sign?
 
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Cirrus_Driver

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We all know what DNR stands for so I won't revisit. I had a run-in a couple of times over the years, but mostly in summer. Kid had a nice dirtbike to ride on local trails in ER area, and once he got confident of riding alone, I thought he could just run the snowmobile trails along 70, into the forest over to 7N. Heck they let you ride your cars to get to deer stands, so what's the diff. Anyway, they stopped the 10 year old kid on the trail, made him park the TTR-90 and gave him a ride home. I had to go back with the trailer, load it up and bring it home. When I told the guy how ridiculous that was, he was ready to get in my face and go gestapo on me, so I turned around and walked into the cottage.
 
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