2014 GMC 1500 Sierra or 2012 Toyota Tundra

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zimmer1310

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Neighbor is looking to unload his GMC with 160k on it. He is 2nd owner but knew first owner and was in a construction fleet so highway miles.
Tundra is only a couple years older but similar price. I only pull a boat and 3 place enclosed trailer so either vehicle would easily tow them.
Any input would be appreciated as I am leaning the Tundra for longevity but the GMC is loaded and rides a little softer? Tom
 
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maddogg

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I owned a Tundra and liked it. Check the years that Toyota had the Tundra frame corrosion problem - ie rust.
 
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1fujifilm

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zimmer1310 said:
Neighbor is looking to unload his GMC with 160k on it. He is 2nd owner but knew first owner and was in a construction fleet so highway miles.
Tundra is only a couple years older but similar price. I only pull a boat and 3 place enclosed trailer so either vehicle would easily tow them.
Any input would be appreciated as I am leaning the Tundra for longevity but the GMC is loaded and rides a little softer? Tom
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Way too many details left out such as price, Miles, sub category, 4x4 and cab set up. Is the Yo a 5.7?
Fyi, had em both when new so have good feedback.
Bear
 
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brad460

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Well- the GMC is at the end of its life..The Tundra rust issue is on older Tundra’s..(a quick search by the two misinformed above wouldn’t kept them from posting that nonsense)..

I think this is a no-brainer: Tundra (even if it had 200k)..

You are correct, the Tundra has a stiff ride..
 
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snobuilder

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brad460 said:
Well- the GMC is at the end of its life..The Tundra rust issue is on older Tundra’s..(a quick search by the two misinformed above wouldn’t kept them from posting that nonsense)..

I think this is a no-brainer: Tundra (even if it had 200k)..

You are correct, the Tundra has a stiff ride..
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guess I robbed the grave then because my ghost 2008 6.0 2500 hd has 268000 miles on it. You toyota guys all have a weird chip on yur shoulders....like the doo boys.
 
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sweeperguy

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brad460 said:
Well- the GMC is at the end of its life..The Tundra rust issue is on older Tundra’s..(a quick search by the two misinformed above wouldn’t kept them from posting that nonsense)..

I think this is a no-brainer: Tundra (even if it had 200k)..

You are correct, the Tundra has a stiff ride..
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1st post said to "to check the years that had rust issues"
My friends truck was a '09. So much newer than original recall of 95-2000 trucks.
So not nonsense at all.
 
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Wanna buy my 2012 f150??



....ohhhh yeah it needs timing chain by the way. :mad-new:
They're all junk after warranty runs out!!
 
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zimmer1310

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GMC is 4x4 with the 5.3L engine and full size rear doors.
Toyota has the 5.7L and full size rear doors also.
Price is in the $18k range for a third vehicle.
Never owned a GM before with the 5.3L can you change the timing belt/water pump like on Honda and Toyota and expect another 100k miles?
Appreciate any input guys. Tom
 
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maddogg

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brad460 said:
Well- the GMC is at the end of its life..The Tundra rust issue is on older Tundra’s..(a quick search by the two misinformed above wouldn’t kept them from posting that nonsense)..

I think this is a no-brainer: Tundra (even if it had 200k)..

You are correct, the Tundra has a stiff ride..
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Yeah - mine was an '11. The rust wasn't bad enough to warrant a recall. Traded it in on a Ford. Don't think I'm misinformed. Zimmer asked for any input. I offered input to look at the frame.

BTW - all trucks are money pits, like sleds, boats, or anything else.
 
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old abe

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zimmer1310 said:
GMC is 4x4 with the 5.3L engine and full size rear doors.
Toyota has the 5.7L and full size rear doors also.
Price is in the $18k range for a third vehicle.
Never owned a GM before with the 5.3L can you change the timing belt/water pump like on Honda and Toyota and expect another 100k miles?
Appreciate any input guys. Tom
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I've had many, many GM trucks over the years, but no more of them for me. The last 2 were absolute junk, with 4 major engine problems between those 2. Brand new crate engine replacement even failed with less than 30K on it. Lifters, porous heads, rings, etc. The 5.3 is a push rod (antique design) engine so no timing belt to worry of. And it is a gutless POS, no power, no mpgs. A 5.3 with 160K would be a no go for sure. The old 5.7 was by far had much better power and mpgs. I had many of the 5.7's/350's. Never had a Toyota truck, but my riding bud has had several, poor mpg's, and yes the rust problem body wise, and he did mention watching the frames. The 5.7 Toyota engine is a push rod engine (antique design) also. My son, and my father have had good luck with Fords over the years, and many, many miles, so that's where I'm at now, and very well satisfied. snobuilder has a bullet proof engine in the 6.0 GM. However the 6.0 comes from a older, reliable design. Good luck, look hard for what you want, and you'll find it!
 
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maddogg

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One more thing on the Toyotas. The rear differential cover is part of the axle. So if/when it starts to leak, its not just a seal and cover, its a new axle.

Not that I'm bashing the Tundra. I really did love the truck. I just couldn't justify the price tag on a new one.
 
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scott_l

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wow that GMC was driven to rack up that kind of mileage in a relatively short period of time.

I have never owned a GMC but a Chevy so as post #5 stated my info might already be misinformed.....did GMC or that particular motor have issues with oil consumption (earlier Chevys did (around years 2005-2010), had to do with the fuel deactivation system, when cruise was set cylinders would shut down to save fuel but consumed oil. I am sure others know more about this and can speak up. Second thought do you care about body rust? Some people do others down give a crap. On the GMC I would look in the rear wheel wells again on Chevys they had two sheets of metal sandwiched but not welded or sealed and it is a great spot for salt to get in and start rusting from the inside out (as you drive around look at some of the early to mid 2000 models, some are really bad. Again if body rust is a concern for you I would also check the insides of the doors behind the weather stripping. Good luck.
 
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WorkHardPlayHrd

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The 5.3 motor will eat fuel while pulling anything. Have a GMC Yukon XL with that motor and even though there's more room for the family if we are towing anything everyone piles into my 2005 Chevy 2500 Duramax because of the 20 mpg I get towing the recreational stuff. 210,000 miles and purring like a kitten. I have no experience with Tundras, but would not recommend the 5.3 for what you want to do.
 
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I don't care what gasser you buy it's not going to get good fuel mileage towing. You have to figure out how much towing you are going to be doing. If you tow a lot diesel is the way to go, if not a gasser easier and cheaper to maintain. I have had 2 avalanches with the 5.3. I guess I have been lucky I had 230,000 on my first and it ran great when I sold it. I have 175,000 on my 08 and it still runs good. Like others have said it does use a little oil between oil changes. I have been wanting to get a tune and shut off the cylinder shut off. I believe that would resolve most of the oil consumption. I have not owned a Toyota but if you no the Chevy has been maintained like it should I would not be scared of it.
 
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1fujifilm

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zimmer1310 said:
Neighbor is looking to unload his GMC with 160k on it. He is 2nd owner but knew first owner and was in a construction fleet so highway miles.
Tundra is only a couple years older but similar price. I only pull a boat and 3 place enclosed trailer so either vehicle would easily tow them.
Any input would be appreciated as I am leaning the Tundra for longevity but the GMC is loaded and rides a little softer? Tom
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Tons of truth on this site, I haven't seen one falsehood anywhere.
My advice;
-The 5.3 with AFM (even in a 2018) is intolerable driving without a tune from Hypertech to eliminate the AFM. I buy new trucks every year and departed GM in 2016 as the 5.3 is sickening to drive even with a tune, low torque.
-Yes, towing MPG is horrible with all gas engines period. Expect 9-11. Even the Eco V-6's from ford are bad while towing, maybe worse than a V-8 in my experience. FYI, these are old trucks and both are bad at MPG but the Yo is much worse but has more power.
-Buy new if you can. Paying $18k for a 140k mileage truck is a rip-off and trouble for sure; ball joints, Pitman with all suspension parts etc., tranny (not that kind) etc. A new 50k MSRP crew truck is only 35-37k if you look diligently and don't mind a new leftover. Remember, buying a vehicle is not only about price up-front but cost per mile between day one purchase and the day you sell it (the true cost).
-No ridicule intended here but if you believe there may be a timing belt In a GM truck, I assume you will not be working one the vehicle. It has a simple chain and gears and has been around since the mid-50's.

Sincerely, Bear
 
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zimmer1310

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Thanks all for the information.
Bear, no worries at all. I have broad shoulders. :)
You are correct on not working on vehicles. Currently own a toyota car and Honda pilot and have 350k combined miles. i have a local guy that i take them to for the 100k mile tuneup and he changes plugs, tranny flush, belts, hoses, pumps, etc. I just want to change oil and tires and keep driving as both the wife and I drive for work and chase teenagers all over so hard to justify a new buggy for $35k-$40k. I am sure the Ram 1500 with 5.7Hemi has pros/cons.
Have a good summer. Tom
 
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1fujifilm

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zimmer1310 said:
Thanks all for the information.
Bear, no worries at all. I have broad shoulders. :)
You are correct on not working on vehicles. Currently own a toyota car and Honda pilot and have 350k combined miles. i have a local guy that i take them to for the 100k mile tuneup and he changes plugs, tranny flush, belts, hoses, pumps, etc. I just want to change oil and tires and keep driving as both the wife and I drive for work and chase teenagers all over so hard to justify a new buggy for $35k-$40k. I am sure the Ram 1500 with 5.7Hemi has pros/cons.
Have a good summer. Tom
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FYI, New 2018 Crew Z71's hit mega deal status today, 30% off all left in stock in Green Bay at Gandrud. That means you can get one if you finance with GM for as low as 33.5k. RUN RUN RUN, dont but used junk!
Refi at your credit union 30 days after for a lower rate, booyah.

Bear
 
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