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Nope no idea where you got that interpretation. When snowmobiling I prefer to bipass plowed to the ground trails for logging trucks. Always on my best behavior thru logging zones a stroke of a pen and logging companies can chase snowmobiles out. I give logging equipment all the time and room to...

Rx 1 ton kicked off the 4s performance market segment but didn’t really get going until the Apex was released in 2006. Got to say the rear exhaust was cool for its time. 👍

Lots of 14 to Big Bay is in and out of logging areas and are plowed maybe that condition can be bipassed.

True but the bright side is new trails and we can deal with grooming later.

That’s good news!😆

Who knows? I’m very happy I’m set new 2019 900t Enduro March deal.

Imo good luck trying to figure out snowmobile market share via hard numbers. The mags go at it every now and then and who knows where they get their numbers. The market shares I have seen broken out: 1. Skidoo 2.Polaris 3. Arctic Cat 4. Yamaha Broken out by dollars and unit numbers world wide...

Always a time to move on with improvements can’t stand still forever. 2nd year sled always better.

I agree seemed like a no brainer. I guess Yamaha wants to sell SW not Vipers. Vector was same way black sheep to get improvements that seemed logical.

How does that happen are available units that limited? How do Yamaha dealers make a living seems more like an internet sale all the dealer does is dispatch the unit after prep? Definitely won’t be an over stock of Yamaha snowmobilers in the foreseeable future.

Stretch said grooming has been temporarily suspended. Been too warm but could get going again.

Only blow out I ever had was Cooper.

Just commenting on what I read no way to know if article is accurate or not and I said snow tech info. If Yamaha has a 2023 Viper and AC does not who cares buy Yamaha not much difference that we know at this time 7000 or Viper. I have no horse in the race could careless what actually happens...

1049 Yamaha 4s is definitely coming back in the AC 7000. I’m not clear what this will do to Viper sales or if Yamaha cares since their engine? I know AC fans liked the 7000 a lot didn’t like losing as a AC product. Ac delaying 2023 production until until all 2022s are out the door. All snow tech...

No one seems interested in Cat or Textron would have sold. Idk if Yamaha relationship comes with Cat?

Auto industry isn’t going to get any better soon. Government is pushing EVs and just aren’t any yet. I’m perfectly happy with my ice vehicles and every vehicle I ordered since 99 was a spec order. My vehicles are good don’t need one for years to come. Price ain’t right see ya. Lol.

Grooming was done good year lots of grooming budgeted dollars were spent little ROI to keep it going in little time left. I only remember 1 year in 16 that trails were open in Vilas until March 31.

Easy because you lose market share to better and best products. No company wants to be perceived as behind in technology. Now days screens and smart shocks are leading edge and riders like and are willing to pay for that tech in the new market. Fancy screens not that important to me but smart...

No was discontinued years ago basically cat went 2s except for Tcat ,Yamaha offers SW and Viper. Figured it was a market decision for non compete issues. Actually was a good decision if Textron had kept their production unit commitments to Yamaha which they did not.

I hear ya but is the unit build smaller each year ? Best 4s are with doo right now with poo dabbling. Cat has the tcat that’s it for 4s the rest 2s. Yamaha has SW variations and the Viper. Just eps added last year. Eps is a big deal but the rest of the sled is old old.