2021 gmc

muscles

New member
Thinking of buying a new 2021 GMC extended cab, 5.3 V-8, with towing package. Looking for input on this vehicle, pros and cons.
Own a 2011 GMC with 5.7, 110,000 miles. Had no issues with it. Just looking to upgrade to a double cab.
Would appreciate any helpful information.
 

buddah2

Member
I had a '99 GMC Suburban w/5.7...put 290k miles on it before motor went bye-bye...got a '07 Suburban now w/5.3 and 180k...no discernible difference in pulling that I can tell...mpg difference is negligible...hope this helps
 

old abe

Well-known member
Thinking of buying a new 2021 GMC extended cab, 5.3 V-8, with towing package. Looking for input on this vehicle, pros and cons.
Own a 2011 GMC with 5.7, 110,000 miles. Had no issues with it. Just looking to upgrade to a double cab.
Would appreciate any helpful information.

Stay away from the 5.3! Go to the 6.2, well worth the extra cost! As good, or even better mpg's with the 6.2.
 

indy_500

Well-known member
Stay away from the 5.3! Go to the 6.2, well worth the extra cost! As good, or even better mpg's with the 6.2.

You may want to elaborate on why to stay away as a guy who had no issues with his previous 5.3 is ready to drop $50k on a new one... while I have heard/seen issues with 5.3s, mostly related to AFM, it is a VERY popular engine that GM has been putting in SO many vehicles for 15+ years with the 14-newer version being a huge improvement over the previous generation, especially in the towing department. I am a Ford guy and will continue to own Fords for awhile, at least at this point, but I wouldn’t hesitate to buy a 5.3 unless he’s trying to tow something it can’t handle... To get a truck with the 6.2 you usually have to buy an LTZ/SLT model and that in combination with the added cost of the 6.2 is going to cost $10k+ extra over a regular LT model Silverado... (if not more)
 
Last edited:

old abe

Well-known member
You may want to elaborate on why to stay away as a guy who had no issues with his previous 5.3 is ready to drop $50k on a new one... while I have heard/seen issues with 5.3s, mostly related to AFM, it is a VERY popular engine that GM has been putting in SO many vehicles for 15+ years with the 14-newer version being a huge improvement over the previous generation, especially in the towing department. I am a Ford guy and will continue to own Fords for awhile, at least at this point, but I wouldn’t hesitate to buy a 5.3 unless he’s trying to tow something it can’t handle... To get a truck with the 6.2 you usually have to buy an LTZ/SLT model and that in combination with the added cost of the 6.2 is going to cost $10k+ extra over a regular LT model Silverado... (if not more)[/QUOTET

Friend of mine just purchased a new Chevy with the 6.2 with out having to buy the upper class, costlier models. It appears that is no longer the case in getting the 6.2 engine option. With that being, the extra cost of the 6.2 is a no brain'r. Even the latest version of the 5.3 is a weak puller, with a terrible torque curve. I experienced 4/5.3's. Not one could compare to the old 5.7/350.
 

Highflyer

Active member
You may want to elaborate on why to stay away as a guy who had no issues with his previous 5.3 is ready to drop $50k on a new one... while I have heard/seen issues with 5.3s, mostly related to AFM, it is a VERY popular engine that GM has been putting in SO many vehicles for 15+ years with the 14-newer version being a huge improvement over the previous generation, especially in the towing department. I am a Ford guy and will continue to own Fords for awhile, at least at this point, but I wouldn’t hesitate to buy a 5.3 unless he’s trying to tow something it can’t handle... To get a truck with the 6.2 you usually have to buy an LTZ/SLT model and that in combination with the added cost of the 6.2 is going to cost $10k+ extra over a regular LT model Silverado... (if not more)[/QUOTET

Friend of mine just purchased a new Chevy with the 6.2 with out having to buy the upper class, costlier models. It appears that is no longer the case in getting the 6.2 engine option. With that being, the extra cost of the 6.2 is a no brain'r. Even the latest version of the 5.3 is a weak puller, with a terrible torque curve. I experienced 4/5.3's. Not one could compare to the old 5.7/350.

I have a 2020 GMC with the 6.2 motor. It is in the SLT trim. You won't fine many lower trim model with the 6.2 unless you order it that way. I do love the 6.2 motor but if you don't need it then you don't need it. I wanted it to haul my boat that pushes the towing limits of a 1500 series. I was tired of driving a large 2500HD model just for my occasional towing needs. You might also look at the Chevy Trail boss as you can find that in the 6.2 as well.

Your biggest problem right now will be very low inventories on trucks. They are hard to find now, dealers are reluctant to trade and the ordering process could take 4-6 months as GM is still catching up from COVID (GM's excuse, not mine).
 

eyeman

Member
muscles, what are you using the vehicle for?&nbsp; Towing and if so what kind of load/#?&nbsp; Casual driving to and from on the highway or in town?&nbsp; Do you load up the box daily with 1000# plus?&nbsp; I'm not a Chevy guy, just attempting to get you the best info.&nbsp; Good Luck.<br>&nbsp;
 

slimcake

Active member
I just got done pulling three sleds in a tall 7x23 trailer and the 5.3 was enough motor. That said I fn hate the way it shifts day to day driving. The last 3 chevs have got the range afm delete that goes in the obd port. That's a necessity if you ask me. Afm sucks. 11 Chev 15 Chev and now 17 Chev Silverado. Get rid of agm and just stomp the gas pedal day to day. Or find something else to buy. I haven't drove any of the other brands but keep saying this is my last Chev

..
 

eao

Active member
You cannot get a 6.2L engine in a extended/double cab GMC. Only available in a crew cab SLT, AT4 or Denali.

Chevy its available in more models.....but only 1 is a double cab, Custom Trail Boss.

I have a 2021 Sierra Denali 6.2L/10-sp Ultimate.
 
Last edited:

snobuilder

Well-known member
I just got done pulling three sleds in a tall 7x23 trailer and the 5.3 was enough motor. That said I fn hate the way it shifts day to day driving. The last 3 chevs have got the range afm delete that goes in the obd port. That's a necessity if you ask me. Afm sucks. 11 Chev 15 Chev and now 17 Chev Silverado. Get rid of agm and just stomp the gas pedal day to day. Or find something else to buy. I haven't drove any of the other brands but keep saying this is my last Chev


I was a doubter of the eco boost til I bought my 2016 SC long box. The 3.5 pulls way better than my 6.0 GM did .....apples to apples 3 sleds in the same inline trailer.
But like they say, you can have eco or boost...not both.
 

old abe

Well-known member
I was a doubter of the eco boost til I bought my 2016 SC long box. The 3.5 pulls way better than my 6.0 GM did .....apples to apples 3 sleds in the same inline trailer.
But like they say, you can have eco or boost...not both.

I bought the 3.5 EcoBoost because I didn't want to run around in a HD series pickup everyday. Spec it out as a SC, 6' box, 3.55 gear, HD towing pkg, right at 13K towing. I don't haul, or tow everyday, but occasionally tow 14K with absolutely no effort. I ordered with LT tires for that purpose towing. No regrets, no problems. Will do the same with the next one. My wife loves it, so we're GOOD!
 

Hoosier

Well-known member
You may want to elaborate on why to stay away as a guy who had no issues with his previous 5.3 is ready to drop $50k on a new one... while I have heard/seen issues with 5.3s, mostly related to AFM, it is a VERY popular engine that GM has been putting in SO many vehicles for 15+ years with the 14-newer version being a huge improvement over the previous generation, especially in the towing department. I am a Ford guy and will continue to own Fords for awhile, at least at this point, but I wouldn’t hesitate to buy a 5.3 unless he’s trying to tow something it can’t handle... To get a truck with the 6.2 you usually have to buy an LTZ/SLT model and that in combination with the added cost of the 6.2 is going to cost $10k+ extra over a regular LT model Silverado... (if not more)

What did they do to them in 14? Do they still have the AFM issues since then? I'm looking to get a truck/suv towards the end of this year so I'm curious what improvemnts they put on them.

We have a honda (family vehicle) that we disabled the cylinder deactivation on - too many issues. I'm heard GM had issues with that too.

- - - Updated - - -

I bought the 3.5 EcoBoost because I didn't want to run around in a HD series pickup everyday. Spec it out as a SC, 6' box, 3.55 gear, HD towing pkg, right at 13K towing. I don't haul, or tow everyday, but occasionally tow 14K with absolutely no effort. I ordered with LT tires for that purpose towing. No regrets, no problems. Will do the same with the next one. My wife loves it, so we're GOOD!

Ecoboost - how are these holding up to high mileage, or is better to part with them before then? Like the idea of it.
 

old abe

Well-known member
You cannot get a 6.2L engine in a extended/double cab GMC. Only available in a crew cab SLT, AT4 or Denali.

Chevy its available in more models.....but only 1 is a double cab, Custom Trail Boss.

I have a 2021 Sierra Denali 6.2L/10-sp Ultimate.

Yes, GMC, is pretty much set with limited specs available. Chevy has much more spec options available. Ford trucks have by far the most spec options of any Mfr's, period.
 

old abe

Well-known member
What did they do to them in 14? Do they still have the AFM issues since then? I'm looking to get a truck/suv towards the end of this year so I'm curious what improvemnts they put on them.

We have a honda (family vehicle) that we disabled the cylinder deactivation on - too many issues. I'm heard GM had issues with that too.

- - - Updated - - -



Ecoboost - how are these holding up to high mileage, or is better to part with them before then? Like the idea of it.

There doesn't seem to be an issue. Kids ran theirs over 200K. That seemed to be the early thought, but it doesn't appear to be the fact. One local dealer had those thoughts early, but soon found it not be the case.
 

indy_500

Well-known member
What did they do to them in 14? Do they still have the AFM issues since then? I'm looking to get a truck/suv towards the end of this year so I'm curious what improvemnts they put on them.



We have a honda (family vehicle) that we disabled the cylinder deactivation on - too many issues. I'm heard GM had issues with that too.

The 14 newers are direct injected. They don’t feel the need to scream for full power anymore when towing and aren’t as sensitive when towing as the 99-13 5.3s are. They definitely have more power and torque as well along with a slight improvement in fuel mileage. The afm issues I’ve seen and heard of are usually sporadic, and in my opinion don’t make the 5.3 any less reliable than any of the other brands engines. The best thing you can do is like you and slim mentioned, delete it. You could sit and read about 5.3 issues until your head explodes but gotta remember they’ve been around since 1999. The ecoboost has its fair share of problems as well. Just gotta pick your poison. Honestly the newer rams are pretty nice as well. For me, it would be all about the quality of service and how close it is to you. My 15 f150 3.5 eb needed front wheel bearings at 50k and turbo cooler line fittings at 70k. The cooler line fittings are a $1500 repair job, just glad I was able to sneak in there and do them myself. As far as the longevity of the ecoboost, most common issue is the timing chains going out. Personally I wouldn’t own one past 150k. If it goes your motor is done. 2nd common thing I see often is turbos going out. I think some people tend to think they own a 3/4 ton diesel just because their ecoboost is turboed though...
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
There doesn't seem to be an issue. <strong>Kids ran theirs over 200K</strong>. That seemed to be the early thought, but it doesn't appear to be the fact. One local dealer had those thoughts early, but soon found it not be the case.
<br><br>just rolled 170,000. I clearly remember the Naysayers claiming get rid at 80,000 to 100,000 miles when first released.<br>unlike diesels most  gassers can give 200,000+ trouble free miles without dumping another $10,000 in them.<br><br><br>
<br>
 

wfd123

Member
Have a 2008 Silverado 1500 with 200000+ miles with zero issues with engine or transmission. Have 6.0 liter with AFM. has Max towing package. Pull a 27 foot four place. It likes non ethanol gas much better for power and milage
 

srt20

Active member
I bought the 3.5 EcoBoost because I didn't want to run around in a HD series pickup everyday. Spec it out as a SC, 6' box, 3.55 gear, HD towing pkg, right at 13K towing. I don't haul, or tow everyday, but occasionally tow 14K with absolutely no effort. I ordered with LT tires for that purpose towing. No regrets, no problems. Will do the same with the next one. My wife loves it, so we're GOOD!

What are you towing with a F150 thats 14k lbs?
I am curious on the profile of the trailer etc. I have a f150 that tows 6k enclosed trailer like crap. Not the engine, the chassis. I am not using WD hitch though.
It is also my first half ton truck in 15 years, so maybe I was expecting too much.
 

srt20

Active member
BTW IMO do a little snooping around about what trucks you are willing to buy. See if anything jumps out at you as something that you could not deal with if it happened to your truck.
Otherwise you can find bad and good stuff on the internet about every vehicle ever made. Take it all with a grain, and remember just how many trucks each manufacturer makes every year. The amount that people complain about online is really small.

Go test drive all you are willing to buy and make up your mind from there. I drove all I was interested in, and ended up buying what I liked the best.

They all make alot of good trucks, and they all make a few bad trucks.

BTW just my opinion, but the 6.2L GM gas engine is probably the funniest engine in a pickup, at least in 2018 it was. But I still didn't buy a GM because I didn't like anything else about the trucks.
 

BigSix

Active member
I have a '15 GMC Sierra SLT with the 5.3 with only 40,000 miles on it. I love the truck. I pulled my Farmall Super H (6,000 lbs with trailer) with it once and it seemed to handle it well. The truck towing mode worked neat.

IMG_2661.jpg
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0346.jpg
    IMG_0346.jpg
    309.8 KB · Views: 10
Top