3/3 Done :(

indy_500

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well my 500 the crank bearing went and my 700 it poked a hole in the heat exchanger from a stud pulling thru and i've put on around 300 miles in the past couple days on my dads 700 since the trails opened up and guess what. same thing, another stud pulled thru!!!!!!!!!! i will never stud a track or buy another sled with a studded track!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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indy_500

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i took out 24 on the outer edge on thursday night and it got too late so i was planning on taking out the rest on friday night after my ride. well that "ride" didn't go so well
 
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whitedust

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When stud studs coming out end of track but can get a few more miles buy taking studs out. Just so you know I had a bud try to get 1 more ride out of bad track & ran track right off his sled & slid to a stop on rails. Was pretty funny at the time but he could have been hurt if he needed to stop. He was still hitting the throttle going no where when he stopped.lol
 

indy_500

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i'm trying to sell my 500 as a whole and if i don't i'll part it out and take the money and most likely get 2 new tracks. I hope the hoses and engines are fine on both 700's.
 

mjkaliszak

New member
Indy... I'm 4 for 4, ( counting a rental ). I feel your pain. So far this year, I busted up my ribs, knee and my 800 front end ( good thing I bailed ). We burned down my sons racer, re-did the top end only to find out that we twisted the crank out of phase. Then my ( 1 of my twin daughters ) flipped the 600 two different times and busted too many things to list. AND finally since we had to rent a second new 2010 on 1 of our excursions, I decided to have my son ride it since he's the safest bet, and he flips it and the darn thing catches on fire ( #$%&@ ). I quit counting after 5k in losses. If my DAD had a sled ( he's 76 ) he sure woulden't be letting me & my kids get their hands on it !!!!!!! ( LOL ) We are off on another trip this week, I hope OUR luck changes.
 

xcsp

Member
Indy, Ever check them prior to riding this season? I mean as in taking a torque wrench to see that they are properly torqued so as not to cause a tear-out due to being loose or were you riding in marginal conditions ie. dirt, plowed fields, rocks, etc.?
 

indy_500

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got them 3 days before it snowed and the guy stores the sled on a rubber tire so the studs keep in "tip top" condition as he said lol. i don't have time to torque 196 studs in 3 week days but i'm taking them all out i just hate studs never liked them, i feel like they don't help at all. i go thru the corners just as fast with them, i could care less how fast i can go on glare ice, they are completely worthless to me and just cause problems. tracks lose half their lives because of them. i can just go on and on how much i hate them. and trust me, it's not just me jumping on this ship.
 

ezra

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run double backers if you need studs have never riped out a double stud.my cuz runs a 300+hp thunder with picks with double backers and that thing has not even pulled picks out and that sled leaves the line verry HARD over 1000MI 660ft at a time on that track with no pull outs.they do get changed every yr but I would think that would make the track even weaker .all I am saying if you need studs run double backers.
 

indy_500

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run double backers if you need studs have never riped out a double stud.my cuz runs a 300+hp thunder with picks with double backers and that thing has not even pulled picks out and that sled leaves the line verry HARD over 1000MI 660ft at a time on that track with no pull outs.they do get changed every yr but I would think that would make the track even weaker .all I am saying if you need studs run double backers.

see i don't NEED studs
 

indy_500

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true,studs do shorten track life.
but they extend human life............just sayin.
it's nice to be able to stop.

i've put on around 10,000 studless miles in my short 14.999 years of life. i've never come close to any problems in the corners. i just don't see a point in them, they ruin tracks, ruin roads, can ruin land, and overall, they ruin your sled! your tunnel gets chewed up and heat exchangers don't like them either
 

beakjones

Member
i've put on around 10,000 studless miles in my short 14.999 years of life. i've never come close to any problems in the corners. i just don't see a point in them, they ruin tracks, ruin roads, can ruin land, and overall, they ruin your sled! your tunnel gets chewed up and heat exchangers don't like them either

I think he means if something darts perpindicular (deer?) to you while you're going, not so much having too much speed for a corner; that's always preventable.
 

xcsp

Member
got them 3 days before it snowed and the guy stores the sled on a rubber tire so the studs keep in "tip top" condition as he said lol. i don't have time to torque 196 studs in 3 week days but i'm taking them all out i just hate studs never liked them, i feel like they don't help at all. i go thru the corners just as fast with them, i could care less how fast i can go on glare ice, they are completely worthless to me and just cause problems. tracks lose half their lives because of them. i can just go on and on how much i hate them. and trust me, it's not just me jumping on this ship.

Go ahead and hate studs, doesn't bother me. BUT, traction & control with studs is much better WITH studs for safety! I was one who thought studs weren't needed, but after having sleds with and without, I'll go with them. You just need to maintain them like any other item on your sled.

As for shortening track life, in some cases , sure, but I feel they can actually lengthen it, but that's my opinion. A lot of it depends on how you drive your sled.

I have a sled with a .92" track with studs and I prefer that over a 1.25" with or without studs as I ride trails.

As others mention, double backers & studs are very much less prone to tear-outs.
 
Go ahead and hate studs, doesn't bother me. BUT, traction & control with studs is much better WITH studs for safety! I was one who thought studs weren't needed, but after having sleds with and without, I'll go with them. You just need to maintain them like any other item on your sled.

As for shortening track life, in some cases , sure, but I feel they can actually lengthen it, but that's my opinion. A lot of it depends on how you drive your sled.

I have a sled with a .92" track with studs and I prefer that over a 1.25" with or without studs as I ride trails.

As others mention, double backers & studs are very much less prone to tear-outs.

It all comes down to how you ride and conditions your on. I've got 6000 miles on my studs, still look new and so does the track. My other buddies all have ripped out studs also.
 

jfaub63

New member
would you drive a vehicle with bald tires? i would not own a sled with out studs. installed correctly(the correct type, amount) and using your head when riding with them you should not have problems. but if you like to slide back end aroung in corners and spin track over rocks you will.
 

snow_monkey

New member
Just missed a deer on Saturday. The deer slipped and fell on the trail when I locked her up from a 50 roll, lucky I had just replaced 48 studs.
 
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