Affordable Healthcare Starts Jan 1 2014

booondocker

New member
Remember before getting excited about some story by 2 of the non ivestagating outlets aka adminastrations head parots . The adminastration did for some odd reason repeal the law that banned propaganda on us . http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/9930
Yeah I know crazy must of been just some old outdated law kinda like our constitution

Geez...hyperlinks, mostly correct spelling and sentence structure...from EZRA.....who would a thunk it !!!
 

xsledder

Active member
The best analogy I heard about Obamacare is this. Obamacare is like a very obese woman wearing spandex, looks bad from far away and offensive to closer you get to it. span12.jpg
 

ezra

Well-known member
Geez...hyperlinks, mostly correct spelling and sentence structure...from EZRA.....who would a thunk it !!!

yep the new phones are amazing.
just think a guy who cant spell can still make it through life quit comfortably on his own never taking 1 cent from government.

just 1 reason I get so POed at the number of people on stamps etc.
 

xcr440

Well-known member
just think a guy who cant spell can still make it through life quit comfortably on his own never taking 1 cent from government.

Just 1 reason i get so poed at the number of people on stamps etc.

exactly.
 
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fusion

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Hopefully you all paid attention in high school and college when you studied Communism, socialism, and Marxism, because this is where we've headed.
We are devolving into an Oligarchy where an elitist class of individuals dictates to it's subjects, acceptable moral, financial and social norms, with decreasing consideration to free markets and competition.
No longer seems like the America I grew up in, and the country I love.
 
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lenny

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Hopefully you all paid attention in high school and college when you studied Communism, socialism, and Marxism, because this is where we've headed.
We are devolving into an Oligarchy where an elitist class of individuals dictates to it's subjects, acceptable moral, financial and social norms, with decreasing consideration to free markets and competition.
No longer seems like the America I grew up in, and the country I love.

well said,,,FUSION FOR PRESIDENT!

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The best analogy I heard about Obamacare is this. Obamacare is like a very obese woman wearing spandex, looks bad from far away and offensive to closer you get to it. View attachment 41760

it! lol
 

xcr440

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Just a word of advice if you plan to try to sign up on any of this, WAIT. Give it a couple weeks for them to get their s**t together...... Oh, and the on-line application takes about 2+ HOURS, so have the time set aside as well.
 

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whitedust

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What website? It crashed. (Something wicked this way comes!)

Yep I exspected that on 1st day still plenty of time to shop.

Anthem Blue Cross just raised my wife's & #4 daughter's policy $1000 & they have had zero claims in 10 years. You can bet we will be checking out competitive healthcare plans on the exchange. I always hated Anthem Blue Cross & our doctor stopped seeing patients that have Anthem Blue Cross just too many claims denied.... time for us to change. I do think AHA will help us find a better & more competitive policy at this time. 5 years from now could be better..... could be much worse ...don't know?.... no way to know.... just have to live in the now check it out & see whay happens? Anybody find a better deal? Let us know & I will be all over it!
Thanks,
whitedust
 

durphee

Well-known member
So lets be realistic, haven't we always been a type of corporate oligarchy all along? It seems that way at least.
 

durphee

Well-known member
I stated it a little tongue in cheek but I do believe our gov't is overly protective of their lobbyist and financial base at the costs to the average American. I believe whats best for America, not you or I, is the best action to take. So, you or I might lose some in a policy if its in the best interest of the country, we might win some. Many people only look at themselves and see what they get out of it and complain if they don't win. That's my personal view to almost all policies. Country first, individual second.

As for the term its defined "Corporate oligarchy is a form of power, governmental or operational, where such power effectively rests with a small, elite group of inside individuals, sometimes from a small group of educational institutions, or influential economic entities or devices, such as banks, commercial entities or lobbyists." It states "effectively" rest not exclusively or solely rests with. And with this, have you ever really looked at a spending bill or policy and see who/how it effects. They are loaded with incentives based almost exclusively with their powerful lobbyist, usually not to the benefit of the country.

So, I wouldn't necessarily say 'corporations' I would say the wealthy. It is a threat to democracy. While the ultimate power appears to rest with the people -- after all, we do vote for our politicians -- the candidates available to us need to have appeased wealthy donors enough to stand a chance.

In essence, the wealthy pick the candidates for us, and then we vote from their pick. There's simply no manner, or very little manner (it does happen from time to time) for your average citizen to have a chance at being elected, money crowds them out.

I took this from another site:
For example, in the 2012 election (record spending, not something to be proud of) Super-PACs made up approximately 85% of the content Americans saw. Of those Super-PACs some 90+% of their funding came from ~200 individuals. Just think about that: 200 people were controlling virtually everything the entire country saw about the election. Wealth concentration in the hands of a few, a ruling aristocracy, is bad for our country.
 

ezra

Well-known member
devils advocate
those same 200 people payed 90% of the fed USA tax burden
BTW I think for the most part the citizens united backed candidates are the few on the hill actually looking out for the peoples freedom and constitutional rights.
a few more on the hill and things may start getting done
 
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