axys 800

[catdog]

Loved my 13 800 SB Assault and can't wait to get my 17 800 SB Assault in some good snow.
http://cs.amsnow.com/sno/b/sno/archive/2017/01/18/2016-new-york-shootout-a-closer-look.aspx

 

[1fujifilm]

We have yet to have a new Poo 800 engine in here for failure. That motor has been a huge success and performs excellent. It's nice for our customers to not be putting in pistons every 1500 to 2000 miles.

Hello,
I recently looked at the new 2017 600 and 800 Axys and noticed a paper advertising tag attached just under the gas tank cap that read something like; "to properly break-in this snowmobile add an extra quart of injector oil to each of the first two tanks of gas to ensure no internal damage".
May I ask if this is necessary? Being a Ski-Doo guy I am under the impression the sled adjusts the oil needed during break-in and increases and decreases oil needs as break-in is completed. In addition, can't the new "electronic oil pump" take care of this need?

Thank you, Bear

 

[POLARISDAN]

frank, i just bought another 800 axys switch from kip..unreal bro..

as far as i know its one tank with oil..i hope so cuz i only did one..

kip did i do it wrong?

and its oil injected but that doesnt get that into the parts where the gas goes i dont think

 

[srt20]

The oil is injected through 5 or 6 ports by the crank. That is to lube the bottom end of the engine.

On the polaris engines, the fuel is injected into the transfer port. The fuel is swept up into the combustion chamber during the intake stroke. The oil that is mixed with the fuel is only reaching the combustion chamber.

The oil that is injected through the oil pump reaches all parts that need to be lubricated, crank, wrist pin, bottom of cylinder skirts and piston skirts, then up through the transfer ports and onto the upper end of the piston and cylinder walls.

Extra oil has never hurt a 2 stroke engine. But adding oil to the fuel is only lubing the top end. Its not adding extra oil to the crank.

 

[1fujifilm]

The oil is injected through 5 or 6 ports by the crank. That is to lube the bottom end of the engine.

On the polaris engines, the fuel is injected into the transfer port. The fuel is swept up into the combustion chamber during the intake stroke. The oil that is mixed with the fuel is only reaching the combustion chamber.

The oil that is injected through the oil pump reaches all parts that need to be lubricated, crank, wrist pin, bottom of cylinder skirts and piston skirts, then up through the transfer ports and onto the upper end of the piston and cylinder walls.

Extra oil has never hurt a 2 stroke engine. But adding oil to the fuel is only lubing the top end. Its not adding extra oil to the crank.

Good info, thank you.

From riding my 850 Ski-Doo for 1,000 miles I am guessing the oil input was reduced by 50% over the first 350ish miles.

I looked at the Polaris website and it shows what I interpret to be one oil input port into the pump and five output ports exiting the pump, looks very interesting.

Bear

 

[snobuilder]

The oil is injected through 5 or 6 ports by the crank. That is to lube the bottom end of the engine.

On the polaris engines, the fuel is injected into the transfer port. The fuel is swept up into the combustion chamber during the intake stroke. The oil that is mixed with the fuel is only reaching the combustion chamber.

The oil that is injected through the oil pump reaches all parts that need to be lubricated, crank, wrist pin, bottom of cylinder skirts and piston skirts, then up through the transfer ports and onto the upper end of the piston and cylinder walls.

Extra oil has never hurt a 2 stroke engine. But adding oil to the fuel is only lubing the top end. Its not adding extra oil to the crank.

Yep I think the electric oiler and anti Det stuff keeps us poo 8 guys smilin.

 

[srt20]

Yep I think the electric oiler and anti Det stuff keeps us poo 8 guys smilin.

Well whatever. In my personal opinion, the engine design is the same as any of the Polaris 800 CFI twins.

 

[1fujifilm]

frank, i just bought another 800 axys switch from kip..unreal bro..

as far as i know its one tank with oil..i hope so cuz i only did one..

kip did i do it wrong?

and its oil injected but that doesnt get that into the parts where the gas goes i dont think

Dan,
You may have converted me, I really like the XCR.

Bear

 

[snobuilder]

Well whatever. In my personal opinion, the engine design is the same as any of the Polaris 800 CFI twins.

HUH?...not at all. Electric oiler no. 1
Anti DET no. 2
2 fuel modes no. 3
6000 miles without problems no. 4

 

[srt20]

HUH?...not at all. Electric oiler no. 1
Anti DET no. 2
2 fuel modes no. 3
6000 miles without problems no. 4

Well, Im not going to get into it. But the things you said, are not engine design.

All Polaris sleds since CFI have had Detonation sensors. Every single one. CFI started in 05.

 

[Yenann]

time for a non-COMPLAINING thread(per sb)

i am super impressed with this sled..and will buy another one before they stop making them..

no blowUPs that ive heard of..the most impressive thing is the way it stays down and hugs these high speed bends on 3..zero ski lift..

also the zero to any high speed is quick and steady..

polaris really nailed it one this one..

any other thoughts?

Does it vibrate like the older Pro Rs did?

 

[snobuilder]

Well, Im not going to get into it. But the things you said, are not engine design.

All Polaris sleds since CFI have had Detonation sensors. Every single one. CFI started in 05.

What about the other stuff?....and why so many blown engines if DET gave a warning?
Guys were cranking up oil deilvery as well which the electric oil pump has eliminated.

Make your point

 

[srt20]

What about the other stuff?....and why so many blown engines if DET gave a warning?
Guys were cranking up oil deilvery as well which the electric oil pump has eliminated.

Make your point

I told you Im not getting into it. I stated my opinion. If you don't like it, thats too bad.

Learn how a DET sensor works.

Read my post #3. DET didn't save that engine.

 

[old abe]

Well, Im not going to get into it. But the things you said, are not engine design.

All Polaris sleds since CFI have had Detonation sensors. Every single one. CFI started in 05.

I thought CFI Poo first started in 2007???? Not sure????

 

[srt20]

I thought CFI Poo first started in 2007???? Not sure????

05 900 cfi

 

[kip]

Sorry Bear and Dan, yes it's just for the first tank

 

[POLARISDAN]

Does it vibrate like the older Pro Rs did?

no its super solid

 

[1fujifilm]

Sorry Bear and Dan, yes it's just for the first tank

Ok, thank you.

Bear

 

[Hoosier]

Hello,
I recently looked at the new 2017 600 and 800 Axys and noticed a paper advertising tag attached just under the gas tank cap that read something like; "to properly break-in this snowmobile add an extra quart of injector oil to each of the first two tanks of gas to ensure no internal damage".
May I ask if this is necessary? Being a Ski-Doo guy I am under the impression the sled adjusts the oil needed during break-in and increases and decreases oil needs as break-in is completed. In addition, can't the new "electronic oil pump" take care of this need?

Thank you, Bear

Guy I ride with got a new 16 Cat 600 this year with the e-pump. He didn't have to add oil to that either. We took it on a trip and it used quite a bit at first and then not as much after that. Same deal you are describing.

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Well, Im not going to get into it. But the things you said, are not engine design.

All Polaris sleds since CFI have had Detonation sensors. Every single one. CFI started in 05.

My Fusion 600 has a DET light too, but it might just be a dummy light. I've never seen it come on and I'm not sure it does with the carb sled.

 

[old abe]

05 900 cfi

Okay, I forgot about the 900. 2007 for 600 CFI correct???? Started with 2 injectors, then 4, then back to 2???