To whomoever made the comment about their sled "not planting the front end", and talking about Yamaha 4-strokes, either you have some serious setup problems with springs, shocks or limiter straps, or just don't know what it means for a sled to be "planted". All 3 of my Yam's, the one thing they did better than anything was "plant the front end". How the heck could it NOT with all that weight over the ski's? I mean really. Not questioning the intellect, but whatever could you possibly mean. I can't even imagine how a Yamaha couldn't or wouldn't turn (unless maybe over-agressively studded?) - mine literally CARVED with triple points in ALL conditions. The Rush Pro - no comparison to the forward bite I got with the Apex's and Vectors. 2 of my 3 were studded aggresively, the Apex was a long track, and they still turned with 6-8" triple points.