By by osama
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I think everyone would prefer to have the troops home but it's not always so simple. There is a time and place for that debate, but you might want to show a little respect for those who died or lost their family members at this man's direction, not just on 9/11, but on the USS Cole, and probably countless other occasions, and not throw out garbage about $ or oil prices, at least for today.
techsledder
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Saw this last evening on TV. I was grateful to hear he's done with. I'm thankful for all the soldiers, the behind the scenes folks in the CIA and armed forces that make these operations possible.
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mezz
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Not to mention the 4,000 plus soldiers that have lost their lives in this whole "War on Terrorism". Though, it may not be that simple to bring our troops home, I do agree, it's time to focus our energy here within Our Own Boundries. Thank you to all who have served & are currently serving.-Mezz
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I'm glad he's gone but not much is going to change. He got what he wanted a long time ago. We will forever be on 'alert'. We have to contend with body searches at airports. Some new whack job will take his place. The world changed for the worse on 9/11 and there is no going back. That being said - burn in **** osama bin laden.
well, that sucks, i was hoping that was real.
thunderstruck88
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thunderstruck88
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I agree
Indy I agree with you whole heartedly Bring all the troops home now !!!! We need to care of US before the rest of the world period !!!!!! Let them fight it out on there own !!! also for a while I'd love to see us give Peace a chance to Have a great day Indy !!!!!!
Indy I agree with you whole heartedly Bring all the troops home now !!!! We need to care of US before the rest of the world period !!!!!! Let them fight it out on there own !!! also for a while I'd love to see us give Peace a chance to Have a great day Indy !!!!!!
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cuzzinolaf
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Found the grid coordinates of where they found him. Pretty cool.
+34° 10' 9.55", +73° 14' 33.28
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=&q=3...code_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ8gEwAA
+34° 10' 9.55", +73° 14' 33.28
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=&q=3...code_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ8gEwAA
I want the troops home just as much as anyone. I'm waiting for a call from my brother who has been in Kandahar Afghanistan for the last 3 months. Not to mention the 4 month rotations of overseas/home he has been doing for the past 10+ yrs. The guy is in his late 30s and single- kind of hard to meet, fall in love with, and marry a woman when you spend half of your life in the desert on a military base. He will hopefully not sacrifice his actual life for this country, but he's given up more than his share already.
Anyway.... It is not that simple. Yes, there are issues that need to be dealt with here at home. But we live in a global world. If we do not have troops overseas to keep extremeist governments in check, that will impact us. We cannot simply 'let them fight it out on their own'. Yahoos like the leader of Iran are trying to create nuclear weapons. If he succeeds and you think one of them isn't going to be aimed at us, you live in la la land.
Osama's death is, more than anything, a moral boost at this point. On top of the 3K+ that were lost on 9/11- Al qaeda has carried out MANY other terrorist acts on foreign soil. Subway bombings in London. Suicide bombings in Indonesia. The list goes on and on. It has been widely known that our hunt for him over the past 10 yrs has severely diminished his ability to operate. However- separate factions of his al qaeda regime have popped up, with new/different leaders. I don't see a life without terrorism in my lifetime, but this death is just one tiny step in that direction.
It should be celebrated as a win by our military and government. It does not mean that anything is over. It means we got one up on them. For now. We need to continue to root out the extremists (which would be most successful if we can remove the terrorist-tolerant regimes that rule some of the middle-eastern countries). We need to continue to promote democracy across the world. And we need to continue to support our troops.
If you think this entire thing is about oil, you need to read more. The conspiracy theories are fun, and it's great to knock Bush or Obama or whoever you want to blame everything on- but the reality is that oil is NOT the reason we are at war. We are at war b/c of the one man who was just killed by our military. The war has changed and transformed over the past years. But it was started in response to the actions of Bin Laden and his disgusting attack on us.
I am encouraged by the demonstrations that have been happening recently in the middle east. The Egypt situation. The Syrian uprising. I think the people who have been suppressed by these extreme religious leaders for so long, are starting to see that maybe things can change. And if we all get together, we can make things happen. It's the root of democracy. The people voting for what THEY want. What serves them best. I have high hopes for these nations as it appears they are starting to realize we are not the evil pigs that their leaders have made us out to be. We don't want to steal their oil. We don't want to convert anyone from one religion to another. We want everyone to be able to live in a world free of terror. To have equal opportunities. God bless us all.
Anyway.... It is not that simple. Yes, there are issues that need to be dealt with here at home. But we live in a global world. If we do not have troops overseas to keep extremeist governments in check, that will impact us. We cannot simply 'let them fight it out on their own'. Yahoos like the leader of Iran are trying to create nuclear weapons. If he succeeds and you think one of them isn't going to be aimed at us, you live in la la land.
Osama's death is, more than anything, a moral boost at this point. On top of the 3K+ that were lost on 9/11- Al qaeda has carried out MANY other terrorist acts on foreign soil. Subway bombings in London. Suicide bombings in Indonesia. The list goes on and on. It has been widely known that our hunt for him over the past 10 yrs has severely diminished his ability to operate. However- separate factions of his al qaeda regime have popped up, with new/different leaders. I don't see a life without terrorism in my lifetime, but this death is just one tiny step in that direction.
It should be celebrated as a win by our military and government. It does not mean that anything is over. It means we got one up on them. For now. We need to continue to root out the extremists (which would be most successful if we can remove the terrorist-tolerant regimes that rule some of the middle-eastern countries). We need to continue to promote democracy across the world. And we need to continue to support our troops.
If you think this entire thing is about oil, you need to read more. The conspiracy theories are fun, and it's great to knock Bush or Obama or whoever you want to blame everything on- but the reality is that oil is NOT the reason we are at war. We are at war b/c of the one man who was just killed by our military. The war has changed and transformed over the past years. But it was started in response to the actions of Bin Laden and his disgusting attack on us.
I am encouraged by the demonstrations that have been happening recently in the middle east. The Egypt situation. The Syrian uprising. I think the people who have been suppressed by these extreme religious leaders for so long, are starting to see that maybe things can change. And if we all get together, we can make things happen. It's the root of democracy. The people voting for what THEY want. What serves them best. I have high hopes for these nations as it appears they are starting to realize we are not the evil pigs that their leaders have made us out to be. We don't want to steal their oil. We don't want to convert anyone from one religion to another. We want everyone to be able to live in a world free of terror. To have equal opportunities. God bless us all.
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it's not over nor will it be for some time. Think back to 9/11 and recall what president Bush called this war, he called it the war on terror. It's not the war against UBL but rather terror. I am not trying to make this a political matter but if you remember Obama campaigned on setting a "bring home the troops" deadline, I'm glad he realized that was a mistake. I give Obama credit for staying and I hope he stays till the generals say the mission is over and the desired results are accomplished. Our military are the best on the planet and I cannot put into words how great these people are, God bless them.
I tend to think changing the mindset of a radical group is not attainable by force or by peace. They killed us because of a way of life so to think this will ever be over IMO is not realistic. U Bin Laden got what he deserved and I hope the rest of the whacks see we are a persistent people and will avenge blood for blood. I am glad the bastard is dead and I hope more of his kind are going to die.