California's new law

bobt

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Plus ALOT less Motor Fuel Tax brought in so they will raise MFT at the pump to make up for the loss.
 

euphoric1

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as far as EV's go too, take heading to the U.P. even driving a car the range wont allow some to make it in a day without stopping to charge, so someone coming from Illinois will have a couple hour lay over for charging, what will the range be on an electric pick up towing a 20 plus foot enclosed trailer? I think there has to be a a lot more thought and design put into the infrastructure needed to support the battery powered anything, and I don't see it happening anytime soon, vehicles, mowers or whatever. To me the take over seems like a big wet dream at this point, a wet dream I could care less of seeing come true.
 

old abe

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as far as EV's go too, take heading to the U.P. even driving a car the range wont allow some to make it in a day without stopping to charge, so someone coming from Illinois will have a couple hour lay over for charging, what will the range be on an electric pick up towing a 20 plus foot enclosed trailer? I think there has to be a a lot more thought and design put into the infrastructure needed to support the battery powered anything, and I don't see it happening anytime soon, vehicles, mowers or whatever. To me the take over seems like a big wet dream at this point, a wet dream I could care less of seeing come true.
I'm going to go to a F 150 Hybrid. Problem solved. However the new Rapid charger Ford is bringing out sounds like 20/30 minutes for full electric Lightning? Battery and charger Tech is rapidly improving. Just as solar. Solar is going in very rapidly in our area.
 

saber1

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Not name calling but we seem to have a lot of Luddites on this site.We all love new technology on our sleds and cant wait for the next advancements but once u start talking electric vehicles out come the nay sayers .When the technology catches up which it will we all will be the better for it .They never thought we would ever replace the horse and buggy either but we did Time marches on .
 

euphoric1

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Not name calling but we seem to have a lot of Luddites on this site.We all love new technology on our sleds and cant wait for the next advancements but once u start talking electric vehicles out come the nay sayers .When the technology catches up which it will we all will be the better for it .They never thought we would ever replace the horse and buggy either but we did Time marches on .
I hear ya saber1, I'm old school some new technology impresses me and some doesn't and I do agree in some ways technology has made things better and some IMO not. I'm one that doesn't always like change, maybe its because i wasn't brought up with it but there are a lot of things today we didn't have then that I could do just fine without today, As far as sleds go I am still and will likely always be a 2 cycle nut, battery powered? hopefully I'm done with the sport by then. Nothing will ever get old to me with the sound of 8000 rpms, the mechanics of it, the smells of it. I may be a "luddite" but that's just me. And no I don't take it as name calling, all good with it.
 

russholio

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I'm not necessarily opposed to electric in theory. I'm just not sure it's as "green" as we're led to believe. And until it can pull my fifth wheel with the same power, range and cost as my truck.....no thanks.
 

saber1

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I too love the sound of my 4 stroke Yamahas all i am saying is u cant stop technology its coming i am in my 50s so i probably will be out of the sport by then as well so until then i will enjoy my gas powered sleds .There will come a time though when u will be able to tow in a electric truck for 500miles filled with hell who knows hybrid sleds or all electric
 

euphoric1

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so you have to wonder...if cargo ships will be introduced into california's zero emission law, can you imagine the diesel smell and the cloud from 100 ships idling off shore 🤢
 
G

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At least if you run out of gas on the trail you can refill your tank. How do you do that with electric?
You would pull it with another sled and it would recharge itself. Kind of like regenerative braking. You can pull a dead Tesla for 3 miles and then it will go about ten more on its own.

As for charging stations the first goal is to have them no less than 60 miles apart in the boondocks. Once that is achieved then they will shoot for 30 miles apart. And so on. And when it is cheaper to own and operate electric things the switch will occur.
The current administration is pushing electric. We have a governor in MN pushing electric. There is really no way to change who is in power until the next election. And there is no way to predict what a new administration would be pushing. Electric isn't an if. It is a when. And it will be WHEN enough money gets invested in it to make it cheaper than ICE vehicles. Make no mistake the government will be involved. The government is involved with oil and gas and has been for decades. It will really be no different.
 
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I'm going to go to a F 150 Hybrid. Problem solved. However the new Rapid charger Ford is bringing out sounds like 20/30 minutes for full electric Lightning? Battery and charger Tech is rapidly improving. Just as solar. Solar is going in very rapidly in our area.
Also most people are not going to wait until their batteries are just about fully depleted. It will take even less time to charge a battery that is just down to fifty percent. If you are towing to the northland and you stop for lunch you can top off your battery while you eat lunch. It is not going to be that much of an inconvenience.
 

xsledder

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Also most people are not going to wait until their batteries are just about fully depleted. It will take even less time to charge a battery that is just down to fifty percent. If you are towing to the northland and you stop for lunch you can top off your battery while you eat lunch. It is not going to be that much of an inconvenience.
As long as there is an open charger. (I cannot image the cost of a charging station for every parking stall. Plus, the additional space taken up by charging stations in already cramped parking lots.)
 

euphoric1

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does anyone know if there are or what the charges may be at current charging stations? and as xsledder stated what of the cost of the charging stations? the infrastructure needed to support them all? will the existing grid be able to handle all of it? what of rolling brown outs? power outages that can go on for weeks as results of storms? a lot of what of's if you ask me that tells me we are way away from this becoming reality.
 
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