China claims another one. Hometown factory now owned by MLB moving to china

jime

Active member
well Abe at least we can agree 57% voted against Clinton. and this would never be an issue with ranked voting for the future.
 
G

G

Guest
It makes no difference. The only reason China has not squashed us like a big is that we still have more boom booms. Our wishy washy political structure is no match for China or Putin who don't waste time with elections or global warming or pollution or human rights. They are in it for the long haul. And they will win. it makes no difference if you vote or who you vote for. But go ahead and expound on social media if it makes you feel better. It also makes no difference who did this and who did that 40 years ago. This is the here and now. Things move exponentially quicker. The deal was done about 25 years ago. It just has to play out.
 

old abe

Well-known member
It makes no difference. The only reason China has not squashed us like a big is that we still have more boom booms. Our wishy washy political structure is no match for China or Putin who don't waste time with elections or global warming or pollution or human rights. They are in it for the long haul. And they will win. it makes no difference if you vote or who you vote for. But go ahead and expound on social media if it makes you feel better. It also makes no difference who did this and who did that 40 years ago. This is the here and now. Things move exponentially quicker. The deal was done about 25 years ago. It just has to play out.

So our Founders Dream, and hard work, gets thrown under the bus, for Fascism?
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
So our Founders Dream, and hard work, gets thrown under the bus, for Fascism?

Ross Perot has left the building....time to move along, but its fun to say the guy who couldn't win would have saved us all.....lol....Trump started to peel the onion and we all witnessed the violent response from them( dems, pubs, media) who stood to lose part of their corrupt existence.


BTW the unions during the early 80's dug in and refused to stoop to 3rd world wage rates. That and the beginning of the building of HUGE cargo ships to bring ALL of us our cheap Chinese stuff has everyone here in the USA guilty as **** of sending jobs out of the country.
You see Abe YOU are at fault as much as anyone. For the love of money we all gravitate to the super cheap throw away junk that china eagerly supplies us.....And guess what....now that cheap Chinese junk ain't near as crappy as it once was.
 
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old abe

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Ross Perot has left the building....time to move along, but its fun to say the guy who couldn't win would have saved us all.....lol....Trump started to peel the onion and we all witnessed the violent response from them( dems, pubs, media) who stood to lose part of their corrupt existence.


BTW the unions during the early 80's dug in and refused to stoop to 3rd world wage rates. That and the beginning of the building of HUGE cargo ships to bring ALL of us our cheap Chinese stuff has everyone here in the USA guilty as **** of sending jobs out of the country.
You see Abe YOU are at fault as much as anyone. For the love of money we all gravitate to the super cheap throw away junk that china eagerly supplies us.....And guess what....now that cheap Chinese junk ain't near as crappy as it once was.

Mostly agree. However where would we have been, had the USA labor caved to third world wages, eh? Disaster. When I was growing up, it was Japan, then Korea producing the "cheap junk", eh! And we didn't lower our wages then either? VooDoo tax policies/laws were a HUGE benefit, and major contributor, to China's rampant gain. Reagan pretty much walked away from Russia's overall demise, such as in order to get in bed with the "rising China"! This as US Big Business, had some very BIG plans on China, eh?
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
Mostly agree. However where would we have been, had the USA labor caved to third world wages, eh? Disaster. When I was growing up, it was Japan, then Korea producing the "cheap junk", eh! And we didn't lower our wages then either? VooDoo tax policies/laws were a HUGE benefit, and major contributor, to China's rampant gain. Reagan pretty much walked away from Russia's overall demise, such as in order to get in bed with the "rising China"! This as US Big Business, had some very BIG plans on China, eh?
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I recall Nixon was the one who began the support for China as a sleeping (starving) giant who without some sort of support would eventually do something drastic to the rest of the world.<br>
 

old abe

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I recall Nixon was the one who began the support for China as a sleeping (starving) giant who without some sort of support would eventually do something drastic to the rest of the world.<br>

Yeah, well, something as that as I remember. U.S. Big Business interest where the driving force behind all that. Perhaps the source of the cheapest labor wasn't their first thoughts? However, they soon seen what was available if they could only get to it, eh! My wife's oldest brother was in on the second round group of US people to go to China as part of a major Ag Corporation.
 

longtrack

Member
The big issue now is LABOR. We have to bring 9 Mexicans up every year to work on our Tree Farm.

Same deal we cannot move 500 acres of trees or we probably would.

No one applies for a Job and we are over the $15 per hr demand rate.

Some people need to get Hungary in this Country. That will not happen with what's happening.
 

frnash

Active member
… Some people need to get Hungary in this
Country. …
Where ya gonna put it, in da UP? Dat ain't gonna work,
Hungary is about 35,920 square miles. and da UP is less than half that size, at 16,377 square miles (Insert wicked devilish emoji here.)
 

racerxnet

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The Chamber of Commerce is the biggest PAC in DC contributing to all who are in alignment with their view. They have been Anti American while enriching themselves with Chinese money. The CoC has directed the language in all trade agreements for decades at the expense of Americans. At the same time both sides of the political party have had their hand out behind their back for the payout. Also to note is the fact the Congress(men) have not written a bill in decades. All new bills coming into Congress are written by law firms and handed to the Congressman supporting it. Once the bill reaches Congress, the pork is added so it passes. This is where trillions are added to muster the votes.


Here is a fact, the Patriot act was never read because Congress did not receive the bill in their hands until approximately 2 days prior to vote. How many actually read it in its entirety? ZERO!! Remember Pelosi; We have to pass the bill to know what's in it! The same happened with the infrastructure bill now on the desk. The status quo (crooked politicians) had BILLIONS of dollars on the table to vote on. THEN TRUMP came along and squashed it all. He was the long shot that won. Donald put a stop to the stacks of bills that enriched all in politics, big tech, military, and a host of other fields. Those billions of dollars not flowing into the politicians hands pissed them off and retaliation ensued. Those pending laws they were trying to pass now became worthless sitting on their desks.


Trump was onto all the grift in DC and slowed it considerably. He took on the establishment for the average American so they could have a better life. He paid dearly.


The road to China started a long time ago, and trying to piece all this together is difficult for myself and others. It goes way deeper than the average couch potato is willing to research. Here is a link to the CoC and its influence on politics.


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=chamber+of+commerce
 

racerxnet

New member
Let's hope the Commander in thief doesn't roll out the vaccine passports for interstate travel. I'd bet your snowmobiling and quality of life will hit the brick wall when everything collapses. And don't forget that the unvaxxed are domestic terrorists, Afghanistan is lost, and the borders wide open. You can't make this $hit up faster than it rolls out from our Dementia patient.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ion-pose-national-security-threat-ahead-9-11/

https://www.https://www.thegatewayp...s-interstate-travel-not-consideration-moment/
 
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snobuilder

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The Chamber of Commerce is the biggest PAC in DC contributing to all who are in alignment with their view. They have been Anti American while enriching themselves with Chinese money. The CoC has directed the language in all trade agreements for decades at the expense of Americans. At the same time both sides of the political party have had their hand out behind their back for the payout. Also to note is the fact the Congress(men) have not written a bill in decades. All new bills coming into Congress are written by law firms and handed to the Congressman supporting it. Once the bill reaches Congress, the pork is added so it passes. This is where trillions are added to muster the votes.<br>
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Here is a fact, the Patriot act was never read because Congress did not receive the bill in their hands until approximately 2 days prior to vote. How many actually read it in its entirety? ZERO!! Remember Pelosi; We have to pass the bill to know what's in it! The same happened with the infrastructure bill now on the desk. The status quo (crooked politicians) had BILLIONS of dollars on the table to vote on. THEN TRUMP came along and squashed it all. He was the long shot that won. Donald put a stop to the stacks of bills that enriched all in politics, big tech, military, and a host of other fields. Those billions of dollars not flowing into the politicians hands pissed them off and retaliation ensued. Those pending laws they were trying to pass now became worthless sitting on their desks.<br>
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Trump was onto all the grift in DC and slowed it considerably. He took on the establishment for the average American so they could have a better life. He paid dearly. <br>
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The road to China started a long time ago, and trying to piece all this together is difficult for myself and others. It goes way deeper than the average couch potato is willing to research. Here is a link to the CoC and its influence on politics.<br>
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<a href="https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=chamber+of+commerce" target="_blank">https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=chamber+of+commerce</a>
 <br><br><br>Yes, even for the politically disconnected, its real obvious that Trumps attempt at peeling the onion of corruption got the thieves to do the unthinkable deed of ruining our only avenue to peaceful control of government.....OUR INDIVIDUAL VOTES.<br>
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old abe

Well-known member
The Chamber of Commerce is the biggest PAC in DC contributing to all who are in alignment with their view. They have been Anti American while enriching themselves with Chinese money. The CoC has directed the language in all trade agreements for decades at the expense of Americans. At the same time both sides of the political party have had their hand out behind their back for the payout. Also to note is the fact the Congress(men) have not written a bill in decades. All new bills coming into Congress are written by law firms and handed to the Congressman supporting it. Once the bill reaches Congress, the pork is added so it passes. This is where trillions are added to muster the votes.


Here is a fact, the Patriot act was never read because Congress did not receive the bill in their hands until approximately 2 days prior to vote. How many actually read it in its entirety? ZERO!! Remember Pelosi; We have to pass the bill to know what's in it! The same happened with the infrastructure bill now on the desk. The status quo (crooked politicians) had BILLIONS of dollars on the table to vote on. THEN TRUMP came along and squashed it all. He was the long shot that won. Donald put a stop to the stacks of bills that enriched all in politics, big tech, military, and a host of other fields. Those billions of dollars not flowing into the politicians hands pissed them off and retaliation ensued. Those pending laws they were trying to pass now became worthless sitting on their desks.


Trump was onto all the grift in DC and slowed it considerably. He took on the establishment for the average American so they could have a better life. He paid dearly.


The road to China started a long time ago, and trying to piece all this together is difficult for myself and others. It goes way deeper than the average couch potato is willing to research. Here is a link to the CoC and its influence on politics.


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=chamber+of+commerce

Agree with all except for your false thesis on the Conman. However, you are just one of so many, many, who were sucked into his cons, ruses! Perhaps just as wishful thinking prevailed, eh! Dig into the details, and research what's real. He's been nothing but a Conman his whole life.
 

Admin

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Hi All!<br><br>No question this one has walked into the political post realm, but it has not gotten ugly, so I have not removed it. Plus, the summer is growing old and everyone is starting to think about the colder nights and then days and then snow ahead. So keep it going like it has and all will be good.<br><br>I will be cracking back down on the political posts once the site starts to wake back up again!<br><br>-John
 
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