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[racerxnet]

Agree with all except for your false thesis on the Conman. However, you are just one of so many, many, who were sucked into his cons, ruses! Perhaps just as wishful thinking prevailed, eh! Dig into the details, and research what's real. He's been nothing but a Conman his whole life.

I am not into the Left wing dogma of politics. Nobody cares about Critical Race Theory, BLM (Burn Loot murder), and the White man thrashing. Look around Abe, and see the reality facing all of us. Is slow Joe making this better? NOT... You should at least try to provide some factual evidence of the falsehoods Trump made within the context of what he was trying to convey. I am not going to spell it out for you regarding the impeachment of Trump or the unmasking thru the FISA court which should never have happened. You can head over to the conservative tree house as well as .gov for factual evidence. Use the search function.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/

Right now we have runaway inflation, a military that is ineffective; and General Miley more interested in LGBT and CRT. Afghanistan is in tatters and the fool in chief is finally coming out to see his shadow tonight. Like Tucker Carlson said" When do we start holding these politicians and the military accountable". Millions of dollars worth of buildings and infrastructure were destroyed by Left wing radicals. You know Abe, it's those fires raging in the background during Trumps tenure that CNN said was peaceful protests. But the protesters on capitol hill seem to be more dangerous?

Like everyone around Biden said, He can screw up a $hit sandwich. He hasn't done a damn thing in 50 years. Did you expect better after the election? Has he united the country as he said he would, or has it gotten worse with the rhetoric from the White house. Don't forget the crackhead son and the stolen laptop story that got buried like Jimmy Hoffa!

Mathew 6:24 comes to mind. “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

I can post a load of links to back it up if you want to backpedal Abe, but I believe most here are smart enough to see the damage done to this country from the divide and conquer tactics being used. Look at social media and the censorship of the conservative views. You want to call that freedom Abe? The squashing of scientific debate over Covid from the very people who created the vax? Freedom?

All of this has been from your favorite commander in thief. I'll also wager that if the vax cards for interstate travel are implemented, John's site, Michigan, Wisconsin, or any other snow destination won't have much to write about. Once the truckers bail on this crap we will all be up the creek. There won't be any of them willing to cross state lines if they refuse the jab. And I am sure there are millions of them that won't.

And don't forget to turn your back and take a knee when the National Anthem is played. Ya gotta love the Left wing politics.

There is the old adage, If you don't believe in the same freedoms for your enemies as your friends, then you don't believe in freedom at all.
The first casualty in all wars is the truth!
The media that was suppose to protect freedom and democracy has become the enemy.

 

[garageguy]

Yes!!!!! What he said!!!!!!!!

 

[chunk06]

well said RacerX. I gave the guy a chance and he failed in his first week. The media is the enemy. I can't believe everything that is swept under the rug like Hunter

 

[Hoosier]

I am not into the Left wing dogma of politics. Nobody cares about Critical Race Theory, BLM (Burn Loot murder), and the White man thrashing. Look around Abe, and see the reality facing all of us. Is slow Joe making this better? NOT... You should at least try to provide some factual evidence of the falsehoods Trump made within the context of what he was trying to convey. I am not going to spell it out for you regarding the impeachment of Trump or the unmasking thru the FISA court which should never have happened. You can head over to the conservative tree house as well as .gov for factual evidence. Use the search function.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/

Right now we have runaway inflation, a military that is ineffective; and General Miley more interested in LGBT and CRT. Afghanistan is in tatters and the fool in chief is finally coming out to see his shadow tonight. Like Tucker Carlson said" When do we start holding these politicians and the military accountable". Millions of dollars worth of buildings and infrastructure were destroyed by Left wing radicals. You know Abe, it's those fires raging in the background during Trumps tenure that CNN said was peaceful protests. But the protesters on capitol hill seem to be more dangerous?

Like everyone around Biden said, He can screw up a $hit sandwich. He hasn't done a damn thing in 50 years. Did you expect better after the election? Has he united the country as he said he would, or has it gotten worse with the rhetoric from the White house. Don't forget the crackhead son and the stolen laptop story that got buried like Jimmy Hoffa!

Mathew 6:24 comes to mind. “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

I can post a load of links to back it up if you want to backpedal Abe, but I believe most here are smart enough to see the damage done to this country from the divide and conquer tactics being used. Look at social media and the censorship of the conservative views. You want to call that freedom Abe? The squashing of scientific debate over Covid from the very people who created the vax? Freedom?

All of this has been from your favorite commander in thief. I'll also wager that if the vax cards for interstate travel are implemented, John's site, Michigan, Wisconsin, or any other snow destination won't have much to write about. Once the truckers bail on this crap we will all be up the creek. There won't be any of them willing to cross state lines if they refuse the jab. And I am sure there are millions of them that won't.

And don't forget to turn your back and take a knee when the National Anthem is played. Ya gotta love the Left wing politics.

There is the old adage, If you don't believe in the same freedoms for your enemies as your friends, then you don't believe in freedom at all.
The first casualty in all wars is the truth!
The media that was suppose to protect freedom and democracy has become the enemy.

Two things can be true at the same time: Biden being an awful and fraudulent president (on pace to beat out carter for worst in recent memory), and Trump as President accomplishing very little of what he campaigned on. He knew how to play the crowds, but how much wall did he get built? 12 miles? Drain the swamp but put his corrupt unelected son in law in charge? Stand up for common people but allow Paul Ryan to dominate the agenda for the 2 years they had the house and senate and accomplish little beyond the corporate tax cut? Wasn't like he was a fiscal conservative. Sure he signed the normal executive orders but those were reversed on day 1 of the "big guy."

I don't disagree with anything you said on biden.

 

[frnash]

Surprised he let "vulcher" slip through.

Yes, I saw that, passed on it.

 

[frnash]

… Afghanistan is in tatters …

I have regularly watched the Sunday morning "talking heads" TV programs since the some of the earliest "Meet the Press with Lawrence Spivak", circa 1966. Yesterday the "talking heads" were of course all about:

“Taliban will soon claim control of Afghanistan” and “Afghan President flees as Taliban enter Kabul.”

Then there was US Secretary of State, Tony Blinken, making the rounds on every one of those talking head programs, behaving ever so much like a cat in a litter box, blatantly, pathetically, desperately, furiously trying to cover up the mess that we left there. It’s pretty damn sickening.

After 12+ years in Iraq (March 20,2003 – December 15, 2011 & 30 December 2013 – 9 December 2017) and the on-going 20+ years in Afghanistan. I honestly think “enough’s enough”, and we do need to end this middle eastern futility.

Unlike WWII, which was a "traditional war” among nation states, with “front lines”, uniformed troops and the like. Iraq and Afghanistan (Viet Nam as well) were guerilla wars, with “irregulars” that are hard to differentiate from the civilians whom they infiltrate. We don’t seem to be able to handle those nearly as well.

Yes, this is going to wind up being Biden’s “Albatross”.

This hasty transition from Afghanistan to "Talibanistan" has strengthened my feeling from the early days of Dubya’s attack on Iraq, the futility of Afghanistan, the belligerence of Iran and the insanity of Syria. To wit:

There are some parts of the middle east that are not only irretrievably ungovernable but ongoing threats to world peace. I'm severely tempted to suggest that the ultimate solution for them would be to turn them into vast glowing uninhabitable areas in the desert for several millennia, not unlike Chernobyl and Pripyat. Unrealistic, unpopular, and worse of course, but the thought does recur.

 

[racerxnet]

I have regularly watched the Sunday morning "talking heads" TV programs since the some of the earliest "Meet the Press with Lawrence Spivak", circa 1966. Yesterday the "talking heads" were of course all about:Then there was US Secretary of State, Tony Blinken, making the rounds on every one of those talking head programs, behaving ever so much like a cat in a litter box, blatantly, pathetically, desperately, furiously trying to cover up the mess that we left there. It’s pretty damn sickening.

After 12+ years in Iraq (March 20,2003 – December 15, 2011 & 30 December 2013 – 9 December 2017) and the on-going 20+ years in Afghanistan. I honestly think “enough’s enough”, and we do need to end this middle eastern futility.

Unlike WWII, which was a "traditional war” among nation states, with “front lines”, uniformed troops and the like. Iraq and Afghanistan (Viet Nam as well) were guerilla wars, with “irregulars” that are hard to differentiate from the civilians whom they infiltrate. We don’t seem to be able to handle those nearly as well.

Yes, this is going to wind up being Biden’s “Albatross”.

This hasty transition from Afghanistan to "Talibanistan" has strengthened my feeling from the early days of Dubya’s attack on Iraq, the futility of Afghanistan, the belligerence of Iran and the insanity of Syria. To wit:

There are some parts of the middle east that are not only irretrievably ungovernable but ongoing threats to world peace. I'm severely tempted to suggest that the ultimate solution for them would be to turn them into vast glowing uninhabitable areas in the desert for several millennia, not unlike Chernobyl and Pripyat. Unrealistic, unpopular, and worse of course, but the thought does recur.

I would agree on WW2 being a different war, but all others are a farce.

Smedley Butler on Interventionism
-- Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC.
War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.
I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.
It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.
I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

We have not created 1 democracy through the end of a gun barrel. This isn't about democracy period. It's about natural resources we can take for a dime on the dollar.

Gilbert describes a discussion with Goering on how a government may force people to go to war, to which Goering responded: “…It is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.”

“The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders...tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
-- Hermann Goring

Same propaganda, different country. My my how history repeats itself.

 

[racerxnet]

If you want a good primer on how the media is connected to the State department and a arm of the government you should at least gloss over some of the information at this link. We have all seen the meme from various news casters spouting the same propaganda lines across different stations. This tells you the how, why, and end result of how we got to this point.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/propaganda-multiplier

 

[G]

I will respectively disagree with frnash in his statement that the US military does not seem to do well against 'irregular' adversaries like the Vietnamese and the Taliban. There is not a fighting force or terrain anywhere in the world that the US military cannot defeat. iF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY. Getting rid of the cave dwelling Taliban is no different than getting rid of the Japanese on Iwo Jima and we accomplished that with far inferior weaponry. It is the resolve of the politicians or lack thereof that limit the effectiveness of the armed forces. If left to themselves the generals on the ground have a plan and the resources to eradicate any enemy. 20 years of wishy washy political policy was finally instructional enough to show the Taliban that we were never in it to win it. Brute force is all they understand. We absolutely had them on the run and then we just quit. They have zero respect for that. Both parties are to blame. And now it is lost for good. China will get the rare minerals an Afghanistan. And the stone age Taliban will oppress women and children and ISIS will flourish. And the rest of the world will take notice. It is just a matter of time before XI waltzes into Taiwan. Who is going to stop him? The US????? Yeah right.

 

[russholio]

Yes, I saw that, passed on it.

That's not like you. Feeling okay?

 

[frnash]

… Smedley Butler on Interventionism -- Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC. …

A very interesting perspective from a retired USMC MG!

I will respectively disagree with frnash in his statement that the US military does not seem to do well against 'irregular' adversaries like the Vietnamese and the Taliban. …

I accept that argument. To be precise, I should have said that the politicians have not allowed the military to handle the last several guerilla wars, dealing with “irregulars”. In addition, SecDef Robert Strange McNamara comes to mind from the Vietnam era.

Records from the Lyndon Johnson Library have indicated that McNamara may have misled Johnson on the purported attack on a U.S. Navy destroyer by allegedly withholding recommendations from US Pacific Commanders against executing airstrikes.

 

[snomoman]

Hi All!<br><br>No question this one has walked into the political post realm, but it has not gotten ugly, so I have not removed it. Plus, the summer is growing old and everyone is starting to think about the colder nights and then days and then snow ahead. So keep it going like it has and all will be good.<br><br>I will be cracking back down on the political posts once the site starts to wake back up again!<br><br>-John

Hey John,
I really think it’s time to pull the plug on this political thread my friend, it is turning into a runaway freight train that has absolutely nothing to do with snowmobiling

 

[Skylar]

I'm still in shock that people actually think one political party is better than the other, and that politicians care about anybody, except themselves and whoever bought them.

 

[Admin]

Hey John,<br>
I really think it’s time to pull the plug on this political thread my friend, it is turning into a runaway freight train that has absolutely nothing to do with snowmobiling

<br><br>You are probably right, but it also seems to be a circle jerk that is therapeutic and is allowing some to vent some steam and feed their ego. So as mentioned, I will kick it to the curb in around 2 weeks...if it's still around by then!<br><br>-John<br>
<br>

 

[Hoosier]

I'm still in shock that people actually think one political party is better than the other, and that politicians care about anybody, except themselves and whoever bought them.

Best post on this thread yet.

Someone said "our" reps in DC should wear patches on their jackets like they do in NASCAR, so we know who they are working for.

 

[xcr440]

Best post on this thread yet.

Someone said "our" reps in DC should wear patches on their jackets like they do in NASCAR, so we know who they are working for.

Agreed!

 

[Skylar]

<br><br>You are probably right, but it also seems to be a circle jerk that is therapeutic and is allowing some to vent some steam and feed their ego. So as mentioned, I will kick it to the curb in around 2 weeks...if it's still around by then!<br><br>-John<br>
<br>

Holy poop John, that actually had me laughing out loud! Noice one!

 

[WorkHardPlayHrd]

I'm still in shock that people actually think one political party is better than the other, and that politicians care about anybody, except themselves and whoever bought them.

X 1000. Nailed it.

 

[xcr440]

Some of you may have an extra 20 minutes.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

 

[old abe]

X 1000. Nailed it.

Absolutely X 2!