deadly accident on trail 3 this past sunday morning?

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lenny

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grub said:
Pretty simple reason. Snowdust and riding blind.
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First of all, my condolences to all involved in this and especially the immediate family who lost a loved one. This is simply a tragedy!

I suspect your right on the money! Many years ago I had a very scary close call. Me and a buddy were out riding and pulled over on a very long straight stretch. I mean you could see a mile each direction. We heard ans seen a group of sleds coming from behind us. I was in the front with my buddy 20 ft behind. The first sled had great visibility because it was bluebird skies. The first guy rode by at the minimum of 60 mph but was far over and not remotly close to us. Regardless, me and my buddy thought he was a total yank for not slowing. As each sled attempted to past us they got closer and closer till the last sled smack my buddies sled and missed his leg by inches. These guys were in a hurry and all trying to keep up. Higher speeds kick up snow dust and reduce visibility. We could have had a really bad experience that day.

Speed alone was not the problem itself. Guys riding to close in low visibility was the cause of this very close call for us. All this happened in the middle of the day with clear skies. I learned that day to never park on the side of the trail even when it seems all is well because there are so many variables that can cause a problem. The leader of the pack should have been the one to dictate to the riders behind himself. Some people are courteous and others just gotta go fast all the time, even passing sleds at 60 mph. I’m sure there are those here that will say “you should have never parked on the side of the trail”. I suppose your right because some morons cannot behave in a rational manner and will not have the patients or courteousness to look out for his fellow man. He would much rather continue on at his speed ratherthan looking out for someone.
 
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elf

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This is my biggest fear when riding as 90% of my riding is with my wife and kids. Now that they are both riding on their own its even more scary. When we ride trails I'm always in front and I know I'm going to take the hit from the way some of these people ride but I'd rather it be me than my wife or kids. And then when people stop on the side of the trail, stick to right side of it, don't park on both sides, and don't do it on a corner. My kids have pulled up and parked two wide before and they get a very loud lesson on snowmobile safety from me. Having had my wife helicoptered off a trail once I sure don't ever want to go thru that again. My condolences to the family.
 
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xcr440

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lenny said:
The leader of the pack should have been the one to dictate to the riders behind himself.
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THIS - People out front HAVE TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE!!! You are the ones that have the best and first visibility of issues, SLOW DOWN THE GROUP BEHIND YOU.
 
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samc

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elf said:
This is my biggest fear when riding as 90% of my riding is with my wife and kids. Now that they are both riding on their own its even more scary. When we ride trails I'm always in front and I know I'm going to take the hit from the way some of these people ride but I'd rather it be me than my wife or kids.
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X2 - most of my riding is with the family now and this is my biggest fear now (2 kids on their own sleds and the wife). Like you said, I ride in front just in case.
 
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old abe

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Wisconsin snowmobile law states; It is illegal to operate your snowmobile in the following manner: "At speeds that are unreasonable, or improper". "In a careless manner so that it endangers a person, or property". Snowmobiles must stay on the right side of the trail, and proceed with caution when approaching oncoming snowmobiles. Not sure of Michigan laws as these were given to me by the AWSC. There is a legal term "reckless endangerment". It can be very expensive, and turn life bad. Also, some people may be interested in the Wis. law; You can't refuse to stop your snowmobile after being requested, or signaled to do so by a law enforcement officer. It is illegal to refuse inspection of your snowmobile for suspected sound violations, or other equipment violations. It's all about being responsible. Very simple. Too much hurray for me, and to h__l with you around these days. These accidents can be avoided. May those who morn the lives lost, find PEACE.
 
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uncle_ed

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Eagle17 it apears you are still active in the sport which is great but an incident like that sticks with you forever.......I hope there was some sense of closure and peace for you and your family in this matter. It is hard to understand why things like this happen and that even makes it harder to deal with sometimes. I hope the kids are doing well but I am sure they miss their mom
 
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slimcake

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Why would ya ask that and what's the relevance? Geez man I wasn't gonna replied to you anymore but that is just cold and unnecessary
 
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I could be very wrong here, but I read this thread when it happened and again today, I think eagle17 was bringing it back up as a reminder and a way to deal with the loss of a loved one. If I'm reading it correctly, the accident happened 2 years ago today. There was not another accident recently.
 
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whitedust

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garyl62 said:
I could be very wrong here, but I read this thread when it happened and again today, I think eagle17 was bringing it back up as a reminder and a way to deal with the loss of a loved one. If I'm reading it correctly, the accident happened 2 years ago today. There was not another accident recently.
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You are 100% correct!!!! Reading can be a good thing!
 
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whitedust said:
You are 100% correct!!!! Reading can be a good thing!
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Yep. and believe me, I'm sure not trying to come to anyone's defense with my comment either. Just wanted to be sure others didn't think this just happened because they jumped in at the end.
 
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snobuilder

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OK haters....yes, I make fun of the term "haters", but it surely applies here....I started reading this thread from post number 1 >TODAY< without any notice of the F***ING date....now thanks to you self righteous JD ers I see that this was posted in 2016.
I hope you all feel good about yourselves in trying to make me feel bad....That is what this site has become.....post up some sort of bad behavior.....point out how >YOU< are much better than that and then skip away smugly about your superiority....


To Eagle17, I hope the passing of time has in some way eased your pain. Sorry if my comment was hurtful.
 
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600_RMK_144

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staple66 said:
This is so sad, prayers to the family.

I just got my 12 year son into sledding this year and every time we are trail riding I am so worried about something like this happening. We try to stick to the Forrest roads so less traffic.
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Same with my 11 year old. Just starting riding solo this year. We were out last weekend, very light traffic, but when I saw another group heading our direction it was stop and pull 5 ft. off the trail to let them by. Stories like this tragedy make me not want to take him out.
 
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slimcake

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snobuilder said:
OK haters....yes, I make fun of the term "haters", but it surely applies here....I started reading this thread from post number 1 >TODAY< without any notice of the F***ING date....now thanks to you self righteous JD ers I see that this was posted in 2016.
I hope you all feel good about yourselves in trying to make me feel bad....That is what this site has become.....post up some sort of bad behavior.....point out how >YOU< are much better than that and then skip away smugly about your superiority....
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If you actually read it you would have seen that Eagle was remembering it from 2 years ago. Post #38 So don't be hating on us for calling you out. Typical crap from you and your trolling ways.
 
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snobuilder

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slimcake said:
If you actually read it you would have seen that Eagle was remembering it from 2 years ago. Post #38 So don't be hating on us for calling you out. Typical crap from you and your trolling ways.
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And here you are trolling on someones tragic loss.... clipping my quote to be a big man. Kiss it.

Sorry, Eagle17.

MODS;
I mistakenly thought this was a new thread.
Out of respect for Eagle17 and his family please delete the content from my first post, #47, and all that pertains to it to avoid the pending s**tshow.
 
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