The union conceded on the sick hours. The reason they were going after the hours was because other bargaining units had that amount and "it wasn't fair". They failed to bring to light that only 2 of 11 labor bargaining units had that amount of hours. The senior members of the 2 labor parties conceded off of there 1900 hrs to 1500 for all so new members could have the 1500. The snow plow union was not willing to concede the senior members hours for the good of the new members.
Anyone who works for themselves. Best part is they have to do it all year. 365 days a year. Whatever it takes. Plow guys?? Ya its 3 and 4 day weekends all spring summer and fall. I never shut my phone off.
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That is somewhat understandable as a business owner but my question was for truck drivers. And the municipal plow guy is also the one out making road repairs putting out the stop signs that the drunks take out at 2am or cleaning from the summer storm that have happen in the northern part of the Midwest the last few years. I would assume your business caters to the public if you never turn your phone off and anyone that cares for there customers will do that but you also have the right to refuse a job if you want or doesn’t pay enough correct?
I worked on a country rental a few years ago that a county public Works employee is renting. It was obvious that him and his close buddies take extended lunches and work breaks on the property (why else would they park the trucks behind a large barn)? I ended up knowing one of the guys that was taking lunch there, he was not shy telling me how good they have it vs the private sector dump truck and low boy truck driving job he had for years before! Because of the fact that the guy never offered to clean up all the dog crap i had to work around in the yard i really wanted to go talk to someone about it, but i tend to just keep my mouth shut.
snobuilder
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alla you union haters will be squealing even louder in the future when the boomers are gone and so are all of the pensions that they worked hard most of their lives for to keep them welfare free as they aged,....and oh, yes...so will SS be gone as well......and then you post boomers will be left with your after generations of them that will increasingly be devoid of any type of retirement support in their lives once you all squander what your boomer parents and grandparents were bright and caring and energetic enough to put together for your unappreciated inheritance.
I AM conservative. I am union tradesman trained and worked hard for every penny past present and future that i will collect. You pissy pants haters can all GFY. You have no clue what built this country. You just glam onto the anti union rhetoric and think that makes you a better righty.....you got no clue....have a nice day and come again!
I AM conservative. I am union tradesman trained and worked hard for every penny past present and future that i will collect. You pissy pants haters can all GFY. You have no clue what built this country. You just glam onto the anti union rhetoric and think that makes you a better righty.....you got no clue....have a nice day and come again!
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glad you think pensions are all in a lock box just waiting for its workers yo collect . lots have gone under and the union bosses were not the ones getting .
no public worker should be in a union situation .
and have no doubt the public employees pension funds in the countery are very sick and will be a massive burden on the tax payer in your life . don't be to shocked when the Fed comes,after your pension to help cover the cost
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Ok. This all kind of makes sense now. Hope you had a good time being alive. But you are going to be dead even longer. All your hopes and dreams and money will be gone minutes after you are dead. Not days. Not months. Not years. You are but a zit on the *** of humanity.
snobuilder
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jesus yur dim. I can't even begin to comprehend what you read into my post....
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And you will blame the worker and not the management even though both sides had a signature on every agreement ....and then the politicians saw fit to not fund or under fund their side of the agreement.
That is just nuts, guy....plain nuts.
Private sectors run on a profit margin. public sectors run on a budget that pays the employees....nothing more. for your stupid private sector equation to work the employees get **** pay and **** benefits which equals **** results while the private sector contractor gets rich on the public's dime. Dream on, there ain't no free lunch. In the end all those poorly paid private sector employees are left with absolutely nothing when they retire.....then what....Dr. Kevorkian gets hired to off them when they become useless to you?
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if that is the case then ask yurself who "unfunded" them....smh....blame joe lunchbox....he is the easy target.
$15 an hour ain't squat....smh. Wages have been suppressed for 15+ years.....do some math.....ppl made $5.00 and hour outta high school 45 years ago....add the COL to that and get back to me.
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who works at home depot
we the taxpayers will have to pay to fund the pensions that go under, just like with goverment motors, why is that my responsibility? I didnt promise those workers the moon....
social security going under really pisses me off after paying for it my whole life, dont even get me started on allowing immegrants to collect who havent paid in, nothing but buying votes
social security going under really pisses me off after paying for it my whole life, dont even get me started on allowing immegrants to collect who havent paid in, nothing but buying votes
snobuilder
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Yep. I've seen both sides with 1st hand experience. It is real evident which set of employees will need public assistance ie: tax dollars...as they age.
I can't carry over anything over 40 hours........it's one bank of time.....called PTO....use if for sick time, vacation time, personal time, kids appts or events, but one bank. Use it or lose it. if you have over 40 hours at the end of the year, they are gone............
since my place combined the time off pool, instead of having sick time and vaca time..........time off due to sickness dropped significantly. I don't really think sick people are coming to work........just maybe curbs some of those "I don't feel like going to work days."
heck, I wish I could get paid out for any time that is banked when I retire but that won't happen. 25 years ago they stopped any payouts.
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since my place combined the time off pool, instead of having sick time and vaca time..........time off due to sickness dropped significantly. I don't really think sick people are coming to work........just maybe curbs some of those "I don't feel like going to work days."
heck, I wish I could get paid out for any time that is banked when I retire but that won't happen. 25 years ago they stopped any payouts.
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Do you really work for home depot? I need a third opinion on some ceramic tile. All this time you have been right there. Whoed have thunk? Just an fyi. Nobody cares what you think about anything. If this is your last forum for expressing any of your thoughts you are one sorry sob. Have a wonderful day. I will figure out my own ceramic tile.
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Farmers that don't have hired help. Tow truck drivers that own their own businesses. There are plenty of us that can't walk away from what we do because finding someone to take over for you who actually cares now a days is almost impossible! The individual that now drives our milk truck tried to start dairy farming 5 years ago. He barely made it 2 years and declared bankruptcy. He had two employees for 55 cows and custom hired everything done. You can't make it work that way. Yes there are other things we could do but this is the choice we made. I went through St Louis county on Saturday and it was a very bad time to risk the lives of people in the community in order to get what they were after.
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