Rail bed is much worse. Remember peeps, as much as the locals want to fix these issues themselves, their hands are tied.
Freda loop?
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Rail bed is much worse. Remember peeps, as much as the locals want to fix these issues themselves, their hands are tied.
Don't forget your permits from the DEQ and DNR and an engineering study. Plus permission/cooperation from the land owner. Just the way things roll with the state of MI. You want to move a rock, you will have to jump through some government hoops first!
And I would LOVE to see you fix that properly with a pickup and mini.
You forgot beer and duct tape. C'mon man!
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A 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck, dump trailer, and a mini excavator could fix that I would think, unless the picture is deceiving of true scale. It's a 3 foot deep by 8 foot wide trench on a 12 foot wide trail, not a highway bridge embankment. Used to be a commercial estimator/PM in a former life, and I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
The key word was "properly". The DNR and DEQ will not let you just dump a culvert in and bring back to grade with the material on site. Once all the engineering is done, then the culvert(s) can be placed at the proper height and the entire river cut will have to be filled with larger rock and then capped with something like #2 gravel. The reason for this is to prevent it from being washed out entirely the next time the culverts get plugged or overwhelmed and the water flow tops the fill.
It could be done with a pickup, but I cannot even begin to imagine the number of trips one would have to take to haul all that fill material out!
Love the Holiday Inn Express part!
-John
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Here is one on the rail bed. As you can see, it's going to take a little more than a mini excavator and hay bales.
Yep, first you have to upright the Earth. (Why are all the pics sideways?)
From what I saw the loop is repairable. The Trail running from the Junction to Redridge Dam is not. They stuck a pile of Money in that Trail raising it and it is
a shame to abandon it. There was nothing wrong with the Bridge.
Last year the washout by Silver Mountain could have been fixed faster than it took to put up the Road Closed Signs.
a shame to abandon it. There was nothing wrong with the Bridge.
Last year the washout by Silver Mountain could have been fixed faster than it took to put up the Road Closed Signs.
Have heard more than once on this site since the loop was closed due to washouts, which wouldn't have surprised me knowing how wet it was in areas even during the dead of winter, but then you see posts like this that say the damage is not that extensive, I also understand that trail repairs cost money and are more often done by volunteers also, could it possibly be a issue with the land owner? would really like to see this loop reopen once again some day, I believe its the 13 loop just south of there and the Freda loop were not only fun to navigate nd scenic but also a nice break from the straight line Bill Nichols trail. Hopefully it will return one day.
From the MI DNR website about trail closures and in this case ATV:
https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570...age=1&limit=10&filterCategories=&searchQuery=
BA (FREDA GRADE) ROUTE REMAINS CLOSED, REPAIRS PLANNED
Due to 2018 storm flood damage, the BA (Freda Grade) Route remains closed; however, funding to repair the trail has recently been approved. The trail repairs are planned for 2021. (updated 8/24/20)
https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570...age=1&limit=10&filterCategories=&searchQuery=
BA (FREDA GRADE) ROUTE REMAINS CLOSED, REPAIRS PLANNED
Due to 2018 storm flood damage, the BA (Freda Grade) Route remains closed; however, funding to repair the trail has recently been approved. The trail repairs are planned for 2021. (updated 8/24/20)
Good News!