Had my hair cut by a gal that followed the rules...

russholio

Well-known member
It's not the "who", it's proven FACTS. Ones determination, depends their intelligence of being able to determine the difference between fact, and falsehoods, fallacies, and out right lies, if they are willing to do so. And now we live in the age that a great many people don't care for the truth, as it doesn't fit their mindset, and won't accept it. Instead they willingly adhere to some delirious, absolute falsehood.

Right. Both sides can and do make this statement. Which leads us back to the question of which one is right?
 

russholio

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Well. In this age of misinformation, lies, deceit, and narratives, if you can absolutely tell fact from fiction you're a better man than I am.

If you put absolute faith in the government, I suggest you read up on the Tuskegee experiment (if you don't know what it is).
 

old abe

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Well. In this age of misinformation, lies, deceit, and narratives, if you can absolutely tell fact from fiction you're a better man than I am.

If you put absolute faith in the government, I suggest you read up on the Tuskegee experiment (if you don't know what it is).

As I said, it depends on ones intelligence, and their willingness to except what is true FACT.
 

russholio

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As I said, it depends on ones intelligence, and their willingness to except what is true FACT.

But you still haven't explained how to determine what is "true fact", and where one finds it. And I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent and rational. Maybe others don't, I don't know (or care).
 

old abe

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But you still haven't explained how to determine what is "true fact", and where one finds it. And I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent and rational. Maybe others don't, I don't know (or care).

Perhaps you read "Fantasy Land", eh?
 

jime

Active member
nobody cares like this when the weather man lies to ya, whats the difference. oh wait, it's only his best guess
 

euphoric1

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If you listened to what the moronic administration in the beginning none of us should have taken the vaccine that the previous one had anything to do with, and also at the same time do we or don't we need to wear masks. You also have to ask yourself too if the "vaccine" is the answer and as they once said..."if you are vaccinated you will not have to wear a mask" well that's no longer true according to "experts" and supposed "science" they are even telling people that even if you are vaccinated you should wear masks in your own home if in areas where there is a large surge of cases. And where are the numbers if the vaccinated with infections? hospitalized? deaths? instead lets blame it solely on the unvaccinated. I had heard that one hard area 74% of new confirmed infections were amongst vaccinated people, I had also heard that the vaccine could be spawning new variants after all what is a virus going to do? mutate and adapt so it can live...oops i do apologize...MISINFORMATION, what was I thinking. P.S. Slimcake...please don't show your self the door
 

old abe

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<br>I'll take that silly deflection as your inability or unwillingness to answer the question.

Take it however you like, just a suggestion. NO deflection intended. However I was raised to deal with reality. That being truth, facts, like it or not. Not interested in any Fantasy Land, what so ever.
 

jonesin

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i'll bite,<br>because he has the official govt talking points and fact checkers on his side, lol!<br>govt and big tech would never censor or manipulate what you see and read to promote an agenda<br><br>
 

old abe

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I didn't say anything of the kind? Perhaps just wishful thinking on your part, eh? And there are a multitude of good, honest ways to fact check, that is if one is willing to do so. As to get the real truth, facts, whether you like it, or not. Intelligence again. As I've said, many people don't like what's true, factual, so they choose to be in some false ideological Fantasy Land of whatever. As they say, the real truth, lives forever. A LIE will die in time!
 
As soon as the government comes clean on what and why this engineered virus was created and how it escaped, and once this "vaccine" has a proven track record, since this "vaccine" was created, tested and has been out already longer than it normally takes to create any vaccine and test it in the past...Ill take my chances. Funny too how when someone tries to post facts about fully vaccinated people becoming sick, hospitalized or dying it is quickly shot down as "mis-information" why is that? where are those numbers and why aren't we posting those numbers in the news. Funny how people forgot that the very idiot that is pushing for everyone to be vaccinated and his henchwoman both repeatedly stated before the election... "we cant hurry the vaccine research and development process" and my favorite " I would never take a vaccine that (our previous leader) had anything to do with" hmmmmm . the way I see it...I choose not to take the vaccine... my choice, If I end up with it...my fault, if I end up in the hospital...again my fault and if it kills me...its because of ....my choice. People are continuing to get vaccinated and again...their choice, in the end they can still carry and transmit and still get sick or die so who is really in danger here? primarily the people who don't get vaccinated and again...their choice. A non vaccinated person is no less dangerous to their children than one who is vaccinated (according to science) And with there being no excuse to not be able to get the vaccine, the people who still remain unvaccinated made the same choice I did. Vaccinated or not we are still a danger to each and everyone of us. Maybe we should shut down everything again, instill martial law, hunker everyone down in their home until its gone. Well guess what...ITS NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!!

Spot on!

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Makes me wonder...

Nightly News one year from now. "The more deadly Zulu variant is here." A new lockdown takes effect and we must "mail-in vote" in the mid-term elections...
 

russholio

Well-known member
I didn't say anything of the kind? Perhaps just wishful thinking on your part, eh? And there are a multitude of good, honest ways to fact check, that is if one is willing to do so. As to get the real truth, facts, whether you like it, or not. Intelligence again. As I've said, many people don't like what's true, factual, so they choose to be in some false ideological Fantasy Land of whatever. As they say, the real truth, lives forever. A LIE will die in time!

So can you, or can you not name even a few of the "multitude of good, honest ways to 'fact check'", and get the "real truth" (as opposed to the false truth?) and facts? How did you arrive at the conclusion that they are the "real truth" and facts?
 

jonesin

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So can you, or can you not name even a few of the "multitude of good, honest ways to 'fact check'", and get the "real truth" (as opposed to the false truth?) and facts? How did you arrive at the conclusion that they are the "real truth" and facts?
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<br>i was on cdc's own website today looking up death of children under 12 from covid vs flu in past few years, there is NO reason we should have masked those kids up! They are more likely to die in a car accident on the way to get the magic jab.
 

snomoman

Active member
Yippie Ki Yay…….
Yippie Ki Yay…….
Yippie Ki Yay…….
Hold on tight, the virtual bronco ride is getting hard to hold on to, hold tight, it’s a wild ride
 

old abe

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So can you, or can you not name even a few of the "multitude of good, honest ways to 'fact check'", and get the "real truth" (as opposed to the false truth?) and facts? How did you arrive at the conclusion that they are the "real truth" and facts?

LMAO now! And no, I will not be baited, eh. So, whatever I would post, you would attempt to shred, and tear apart, nope, won't go there. As I have said several times, now once again, INTELLIGENCE! If able, do your research, it's actually very satisfying, eh! And perhaps you too, won't accept what doesn't fit your mindset? Fantasy Land?
 

russholio

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LMAO now! And no, I will not be baited, eh. So, whatever I would post, you would attempt to shred, and tear apart, nope, won't go there. As I have said several times, now once again, INTELLIGENCE! If able, do your research, it's actually very satisfying, eh! And perhaps you too, won't accept what doesn't fit your mindset? Fantasy Land?
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<br>That's what I thought.  You don't know me, you don't know that I would attempt to do, you don't even know what my mindset is, or where I get my "real truth" or "facts" from.......yet you continue to question my intelligence because it may not (or it may, you don't even know that) coincide with your own.  "Tolerant" of every opinion, as long as it's the same as your own.<br><br>If you were that sure of your "real truth" and "facts", what would it matter what a low-life imbecile like me thinks?<br>
 
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