Had my hair cut by a gal that followed the rules...

While I never mentioned intelligence, I consider Malone another source of misinformation. From Wikipedia:

Malone was criticized for propagating misinformation during the COVID-19 pandemic, notably making unsupported claims about the alleged toxicity of spike proteins generated by some COVID vaccines.

And... he did not create the mRNA vaccine. Do some more research.


Your argument is based on semantics and not fact. It's like saying Henry Ford didn't create the automotive assembly line only because the assembly line has changed and evolved over the years. Malone literally invented the process with which RNA is introduced into cells. He has spent his entire career as a pro-vaccine Doctor but has concerns about this vaccine for THIS virus. Why? Because in past animal trials with coronaviruses it has caused reproductive issues (the toxicity you refer to) and in the case of SARS (a coronavirus) killed the test subjects.

He is also not claiming that at-risk groups should not be getting it. He IS claiming that we shouldn't be giving it to healthy adults and CHILDREN.

At the end of the day, this should be a personal choice and neither side of the discussion (especially not a key person such as this) should be muted.

I am sure one word is out of place and you'll claim misinformation. Seems to be the way of the world these days.
 

racerxnet

New member
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...-or-engage-in-private-businesses/#more-214876

Coming to your State soon. Show me your papers comrade. You asshats agreeing to this will lose all freedoms at the expense of the true patriots who fight for the freedom and liberties you take for granted. Go ahead and delete this John, it's controversial, but truthful. You have done it before.

Why are they allowing ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS into the US and bussing them into the interior without Covid testing? Why the mask if you got the shot, Why 6 ft if you have a mask, Why get a shot if you had Covid and have immunity?

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...o-keep-citizens-in-lock-down-until-next-year/
 

euphoric1

Well-known member
this "delta" variant is so deadly and contagious... blame it on the unvaccinated...more mandates coming, just want to share some thoughts and observations. Bucks block party/parade considered to be super spreader, in fact they know the exact number of new cases as a result of it while both the mayor or milwaukee and the governor of wisconsin stood shoulder to shoulder with people without wearing masks, a large hospital system in milwaukee requiring all employees of the system and contractors that do work there be vaccinated by Nov 1st, ok wait a minute... milwaukee is again ground zero for transmission of the new covid variant and you have till november 1st to get vaccinated? am I missing something? if this variant is so contagious and over running our health care system, where is the urgency??? what happens if they dont get vaccinated? are they going to fire employees from a system that is already short staffed? what of the demographic of people who have the lowest number of vaccinations? are they going to fire them? can you see or imagine what would be cried out if that happens? Wisconsin state fair...anyone been there? ELBOW TO ELBOW people but you only have to wear a mask indoors, you are ok outside amongst the crowds again ELBOW TO ELBOW. We attended a Baseball game at AMFAM field sponsored by one of our vendors and I looked around could not see anyone wearing a mask and sitting on top of one another. This is not a super spreader event??? if you ask me there is a lot of talking out of both ends going on here, more fear mongering and more attempts at control because it makes no sense. Not at all and that will be the day someone is going to tell me that I "have to" be vaccinated, and if I die from it I invite anyone who thinks I should have, to speak at my funeral and tell the world how stupid I was.
 

4kops

Member
euphoric1 your correct. I was told that those health care workers are not to come to work after Nov 1st if they have not gotten there shot. not sure what the wording is if you don't. WHAT HAPPENED TO FREEDOM OF CHOICE? Again all it is going to take is one of those working to have a spouse that's a lawyer and folks we will have a class action lawsuit not that I am for it meaning lawsuits cause I HATE lawyers but it is not a question if just a matter of when. Well you and me both know our gov. and the mayor of Milw are asshats. I can't wait for the war to start cause it will start. I just don't understand how people doesn't see through this whole thing. Amazing what tunnel vision does.
 

4kops

Member
old abe now i get it..... Have not looked but your from Illinois-me now it has made full circle. Makes sense.
 

xcr440

Well-known member
If you are wondering if companies, hospitals specifically, can and will require the vax, AND let people go who don't get it - look no further than Houston. There were ~150 employees who refused the shot, and are now looking for another job. Some LTC facilities have mandated the flu shot for years for employees. And this will be no different. In fact, the local pharmacist told my neighbor the Covid "Booster" shot will be part of the fall flu shot. So get in line everyone, if you want to be in compliance.

As long as I don't need to have the shot to drive my azz to where the snow is to ride my sled with my "mask" on by myself, I really don't care what anybody else does.
 

ddhanna

Active member
And meanwhile, those of us who chose to get the vaccine are sitting back in amusement over all the conversation about a simple poke in the arm. If I have to get the mask out again, so be it. I have no concerns over my freedom.
 

Hoosier

Well-known member
Side stepping much of this discussion, but wanted to note that Medicare reimbursement rates to hospitals are now impacted by vaccination rates of staff. So that may have an impact on the health care places now requiring vaccines. They didn't seem to mind putting their staff at risk last year but now they will fire them if they don't comply.
 

dwz

Active member
Hi my name is big D and I’m addicted to snowmobiling as well, starting December 1 therapy will begin for my illness!
 

hermie

Well-known member
The people I feel sorry for the most out of this is the health care workers,in some states they have been going nonstop for well over a year.
 
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