Half empty Bristol?????

windingtrailgal

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thunderstruck - ugly mug! BWAH!! Maybe Jimmy Spencer can punch him too and make him prettier? And the kid has so much talent - makes it easier that he's grown up with these cookie cutter tracks and this style of car so he doesn't have to unlearn anything...but man! I know of 1 fan he has just cuz they feel sorry for him cuz nobody likes him!?

and OF COURSE dum azz digger's g-friend is Cindy - just one more insult from fox since it's my name?! :mad:
 

cat_man_mike

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windingtrail, was jayski the site you where talking about? I agree, after the four letter word bought him out, it was all over. The main reason I became a fan was of Dale and how hard it was to win a championship and how hard he went after it race after race. Other sports it is up for grabs once you get into the playoffs, but NA$CAR was the best team all year got the big trophy, period. Now Dale is gone and the mystique of the Winston cup is no more. Fox ruined football for all of the intelegent fans and they did the same thing for NA$CAR dumbing it down so far that it is annoying. I have the DVD of the 1998 daytona 500 and even though the production value is not at the level it is today, the telecast is soooo much better. I miss the days of races on TNN, CBS, and the four letter word before they got all crazy.
 

windingtrailgal

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Mike, no...not Jayski. That guy used to have the best info EVER tho. If it was a rumor at Jayski it was true! don't know how many times I said "NO WAY!" and sure enough it was so not 1-2 weeks later. I'm happy for him and his success but he isn't a little guy anymore so no one would even think of talking to him. He started that site just for his love of NASCAR...

No, this guy's name was Matt McGlaughlin. I can't even remember all the sites he used to write for cuz I haven't thought about it in years. Catchfence was one of em. And I just don't remember the site that he wrote for that got "bought" and he got fired cuz he was almost always critical of NASCAR. Now that I'm a recovering NASCAR addict I don't even go to Jayski anymore. Last season was the first time in over 20 years that I didn't watch one complete race.

And oh MAN do I miss the TNN days! I don't miss the early 90's when races on that 4 letter network got pre-empted by women's college basketball (Talladega 91) and some big bowling tournament. But I don't have cable anymore so it's not like I could watch a full season if I wanted to. Who cares about the production of it, right? Seriously! I just wanna watch the race. I notice that after the winner crosses the line that's all you get to see. What about every position after that? Heck,..can we at least get the top 10? Like him or hate him, Jr is the most popular driver in NASCAR and it's the reason a heckava lot of people tune into to watch this racertainment crap nowadays - so maybe show his car crossing the finish line?

The '98 Daytona 500 - watched if from the hospital. My first son was born on 2/14/98. nurses had to come tell me to quiet down - I just couldn't believe a sea gull wasn't gonna get him again?!? I just couldn't believe he finally did it.

Again, racertainment crap. sigh

Oh, I better add a smart alleck "Just sayin..." :D
 

mikeh906

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I hope your recovery is long and peaceful. I try to watch, and am always disapointed in the end. Tried to watch sunday, it was so boring we watched a 20 [30]year old rerun movie instead. Sat, Dancia had a hissy fit, woo hoo. Pull out the fists add some action, with no fines. Peaple will watch cause then you never know what will happen. Hit Daytona this year, 1500 bucks later I felt raped, my first and last race. It was cool, but watching paint dry is cheaper and more fun [with beer]. Beer is cheaper at home and I can switch to the 20 year old movie for free. [Terminator] The NFL is a whole different issue. The NBA, NHL ect. Lets give them a dozen old Ramblers with no rules and see the stands full. I feel better now, don't you?
 

cyguy

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We have 2 less campers and 8 less people attending the Kansas race. It has more to do with the race then it does financial. Too bad. Now that it's a chase race the other driver's don't even seem to be there...what a shame.
 

yamadooed

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I like most of the post responses spoken as it appears lots of Nascar fans inside here Butt maybe its the sheer fact the economy kinda suckiths right now???
 

windingtrailgal

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Mike - I'm glad you feel better and I do too!

700Classic - I'm glad you still like NASCAR. Not trying to make anyone else as bitter and nasty as I am?! Again, I feel like a recovering addict - I fall off the wagon now and again...but it makes me feel all icky - like I NEW better than to watch that race and now I gotta live with it!?! :eek:

cyguy - for sure it's the economy. But again, it's that there are people who are choosing to spend their hard earned dollars on something else as well.
 

thunderstruck88

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ok here gpes some thoughts on my part Get rid of the Chase , Get Rid of Toyota, Get rid of booogity boogity , Get rid of long drawn out pre race shows that BORE us , Get rid of the idea shorter races are what the fans want and they won't lower the ticket prices for them , Get rid of this BORING CAR they CAN"T WORK ON , Bring back NORTH WILKSBORO AND ROCKINGHAM, MAKE THE LAST RACE EITHER ATLANTA OR VEGAS AND NOT HOMESTEAD , HAVE DARLINGTON THE SOUTHREN 500 AND HAVE 2 RACES THERE AGAIN GET RID OF CALIFORNIA PERIOD , just some of my thoughts on why Nascar is NOT doing too well these days Sure the economy sucks right now but they in Nascar can and could be doing more to help us out to MAKE IT INTERESTING!!!!!!! now I will go sit down and try to calm down lol this gets my b/p boiling lol
 

rsvectordude

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I totally agree! They wrecked the racing at Bristol with progressive banking. I used to go to 12 races a year but since the chase I cancelled all my season tickets. I barely watch it on TV anymore.
 

cat_man_mike

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You may be able to blame it on the economy if the TV ratings where not in the tiolet, which they are. I really don't think it is so much the new car. I believe that is a nessesary evil. As the speeds increase to what they are today, the car had to get safer. Look at some old clips of Michael Waltrip and Ryan Newman try to get out of a wrecked car and it is obvious that things had to change. They seem to be trying to get the cars to look like their stock counterparts more and more. The cookie cutter tracks make for long drawn out racing, the repavement of Bristol, Talledega, and Daytona have really taken a lot of excitement out of what where 6 of your premier events. The money pumped into the sport in the early 2000's really seperated the "haves" from the "have nots" multicat superteams now dominate the sport and rare is the occasion that someone out of their price range gets a top 10. The Bush series (yes, I still call it that) is loaded with cup ringers who make it impossible for up and comming drivers to catch a break. But, the track owners (the Frances) say they won't make any money at the gate if they don't have a field full of cup superstars. I call BS! That is what made the bush series so exciting, watching guys like Harvick, Jr., Kenseth, and Johnson grow up and become the racers they are today. Ok, I feel a little better again :)
 

windingtrailgal

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Thunderstruck - yup, yup and yup.

Mike - I try to be open minded and not sound like the old timers that I had to listen to in the late 80's and early 90's who said that NASCAR ruined racing...and I get your point about the engineering of the cars and improvements for safety - but NASCAR's specs aren't just for safety - they're for parody...so now? It's like watchin a f'n IROC race every Sunday where the driver's ability to DRIVE a car isn't as critical as the over-engineered POS he's "driving."

I don't wanna start beating a dead horse...Like many have stated - get rid of the chase. Let em drive. Let em race.

I'm hoping Tony Stewart says f this and starts his own series...

and rsvdude - 12 per year? That musta been sweet!! I always figured I'd go to more when I could afford it later...well, it's later - not sure I could afford it - just know that I'd rather spend my money elsewhere and I feel like I shoulda/woulda/coulda just gone and paid for it later!! :(
 

700classic

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Sorry, but I enjoyed the Bristol race. The old track was more like a demo derby, you want to get around someone you had to punt them out of the way. The new track they can actually race to get around someone. I guess it's what kind of racing do you like to see.
 

700classic

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Windingtrailgal, Take a deep breath and close your eyes. Now think snow, foot and a half base, foot of new fresh snow, smooth trails, snow clinging to the trees, little birdys flying around! Now is everything better, blood pressure back down? :) Life is good! Sorry to hear Nascar isn't what it used to be for you.:( Go and enjoy your local tracks and have a great time!
 

cat_man_mike

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There was strategy in the old track. You had to pick your spots and set a guy up to pass him. Sure you could use the bumper to move him, and those where the ones on the four letter word's highlights at night. But it was the strategic passes by guys that could really wheel a car, Waltrip, Earnhardt, Allison, Rusty, Kulwicki, Gordon that made that race what it was. Of the few highlight reel bump and runs, (still LOVE Dale "rattling Lebonte's cage") there where hundreds of great racing moves made in every race there. Now with multiple grooves, all that is gone. The race is in the crew chief's hands now, not the driver's.
 
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