Has any one seen this yet?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100804/ap_on_bi_ge/us_harley_milwaukee_breakup
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100804/ap_on_bi_ge/us_harley_milwaukee_breakup
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Harley may leave Milwaukee
- Thread starter slednek
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Firecatguy
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sounds like MN is going to push for them to come here.......union in Wis dont think they will move?better guess again......dont Wis have a 70% corporate tax too?
102 years they been their...sad how the times are getting
102 years they been their...sad how the times are getting
snobuilder
Well-known member
Firecatguy
New member
oh not another bash harley thread.......please
snobuilder
Well-known member
I don't care what you ride,....that was just plain LOL funny.
Are there more out there?,.....PLEASE POST, cuz I need some laughs....
The way H-D killed the buell line when Bombardier clearly wanted to take over the operation and keep the 124 employees off of the UC line during this recession, was nothing short of un-American IMO
Are there more out there?,.....PLEASE POST, cuz I need some laughs....
The way H-D killed the buell line when Bombardier clearly wanted to take over the operation and keep the 124 employees off of the UC line during this recession, was nothing short of un-American IMO
polarisrider1
New member
I don't care what you ride,....that was just plain LOL funny.
Are there more out there?,.....PLEASE POST, cuz I need some laughs....
The way H-D killed the buell line when Bombardier clearly wanted to take over the operation and keep the 124 employees off of the UC line during this recession, was nothing short of un-American IMO
I fail to see any humor in your video that does nothing but bash an american icon. p.s. I just rode 417 miles today on a 99 Heritage springer with zero issues. As a matter of fact I have 33,000 miles of no issues with the bike.
polarisrider1
New member
The unions need to understand that the greed of the "Union Business" needs to end. They are operating with turn of the century mentality. The world is much different now than back when Unions were truly needed. Harley needs to get the prices lower as does Polaris, Cat, Doo and Yamaha if they wish to continue selling "toys" to adults. Maybe the Harley workers need to take a road trip to Detroit, Flint and Saginaw to see what can happen if they expect to much. There needs to be a balance.
Firecatguy
New member
We might see them here in the Minnesota Ford plant. That would be an enticing move...if we can get our high biz taxes and politicians out of the way.
hey job opps...sweet!!!!
Firecatguy
New member
I fail to see any humor in your video that does nothing but bash an american icon. p.s. I just rode 417 miles today on a 99 Heritage springer with zero issues. As a matter of fact I have 33,000 miles of no issues with the bike.
thank you!!!I dont get it either.......my 98 heritage has over 50,000 and still going strong.....
polarisrider1
New member
thank you!!!I dont get it either.......my 98 heritage has over 50,000 and still going strong.....
Okay, I will pay for your guide too! lol
Firecatguy
New member
Okay, I will pay for your guide too! lol
hahaha...good one!!!
The unions need to understand that the greed of the "Union Business" needs to end. They are operating with turn of the century mentality. The world is much different now than back when Unions were truly needed. Harley needs to get the prices lower as does Polaris, Cat, Doo and Yamaha if they wish to continue selling "toys" to adults. Maybe the Harley workers need to take a road trip to Detroit, Flint and Saginaw to see what can happen if they expect to much. There needs to be a balance.
Ding...Ding.....Ding....Ding....we have a winner.............you are correct!
michaeladams
New member
my harley was assembled in york pennsylvania,then disassembled and reassembled in my garage in wisconsin.it's not harleys fault that they may be forced out of wisconsin.lets just remember to take out the trash in november.
michaeladams
New member
on the other hand they are probably calling bluff on the union.i'm not a big union guy but to each thier own.
on the other hand they are probably calling bluff on the union.i'm not a big union guy but to each thier own.
not a big union guy either, doubt it's a bluff, just ask the workers at mercury in fond du lac how the "bluff" worked for them...
thunderstruck88
New member
one word NAFTA killed the American worker our government sold us out for cheaper crappier labor in 3rd world countries don't blame the union blame our government and the EPA they want all American manufacturing jobs over seas so we can go green and be all service workers that make under $10 an hour or less just remember to vote in November !!!!!!
anonomoose
New member
I love it! Union bashing....
Unions are the bad boys.....
Well listen up...Union class 101, is about to go into session, and hope you have the wax out of your ears.
Unions became necessary and grew in popularity because employers were brutal in the employment picture. Working 7 days a week, at wages that would not sustain you and would only push you harder and harder.
Working environments were downright dangerous. Never mind, if you lost a worker, there was plenty more where that came from.
Now the union came along and said, clean up the work place and put safety devices on those huge presses, and machines. Work days were cut back to 8 hours per day. Overtime was paid if you "agreed" to work it and then you got paid extra for taking away your free time.
Are you still listening out there. YOU owe your income levels to the unions. They set the pace and union or no union, if you employed workers you had to compete with union scale, so this caused the wages you were paid to keep pace with union levels. If there were no unions, guess where you would be today? Forget about sledding, an extra car or truck...nice home, that wouldn't even be possible.
So understand that there must be a balance between union and non-union, to keep harmony with the labor forces and owners. The working class has become middle class almost entirely because of the work done by unions. And make no mistake that Owners of Businesses would take full advantage of you if they could...cause it means more in the owner's pockets and history has shown that wealthy people have zero consciences when it comes to employing workers. They don't put expensive measures in place because they are nice people who care about their employee's...they do it because of laws, mostly forced into place by union efforts, and by government measures.
And while there is a point where the union can become too powerful and implode the system, don't you think for one minute that if the unions were NOT there, that you would be rolling along just "fine" without it. Your life could become living **** if your employer wanted it to be and your wages could be 1/3 of what they are and if you didn't like it...well...there is the door and don't let it hit you in the sit down on the way out.
Any questions? Class dismissed.
Unions are the bad boys.....
Well listen up...Union class 101, is about to go into session, and hope you have the wax out of your ears.
Unions became necessary and grew in popularity because employers were brutal in the employment picture. Working 7 days a week, at wages that would not sustain you and would only push you harder and harder.
Working environments were downright dangerous. Never mind, if you lost a worker, there was plenty more where that came from.
Now the union came along and said, clean up the work place and put safety devices on those huge presses, and machines. Work days were cut back to 8 hours per day. Overtime was paid if you "agreed" to work it and then you got paid extra for taking away your free time.
Are you still listening out there. YOU owe your income levels to the unions. They set the pace and union or no union, if you employed workers you had to compete with union scale, so this caused the wages you were paid to keep pace with union levels. If there were no unions, guess where you would be today? Forget about sledding, an extra car or truck...nice home, that wouldn't even be possible.
So understand that there must be a balance between union and non-union, to keep harmony with the labor forces and owners. The working class has become middle class almost entirely because of the work done by unions. And make no mistake that Owners of Businesses would take full advantage of you if they could...cause it means more in the owner's pockets and history has shown that wealthy people have zero consciences when it comes to employing workers. They don't put expensive measures in place because they are nice people who care about their employee's...they do it because of laws, mostly forced into place by union efforts, and by government measures.
And while there is a point where the union can become too powerful and implode the system, don't you think for one minute that if the unions were NOT there, that you would be rolling along just "fine" without it. Your life could become living **** if your employer wanted it to be and your wages could be 1/3 of what they are and if you didn't like it...well...there is the door and don't let it hit you in the sit down on the way out.
Any questions? Class dismissed.
purproadking
New member
I agree 100% anonomoose.